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Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg114713#msg114713
« on: July 15, 2010, 01:08:07 am »
NAME:
Tuatara
ELEMENT:
:aether aether :aether
COST:
6 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|6
ABILITY:
Wove: The last spell used by your opponent becomes Taniwha’s active ability until used. 
NAME:
Taniwha
ELEMENT:
:aether aether :aether
COST:
6 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|6
ABILITY:
Wove: The last spell used by your opponent becomes Taniwha’s active ability until used. Spells quanta use is now :aether
ART:
Scyther: Image was taken from a photo of a Tuatara I took. I then took this to a drawing tablet and traced it out then fantasising it to look more like a line drawn creature (thus I could get some of the propotions right). This is my first attempt at this so any suggestions would be much appreciated.
IDEA:
Scyther
NOTES:
Tuatara when using Wove the cost of the spell is exactly the same as the original (ie Drain Life is still 1 :darkness) Taniwha when using Wove the cost of the spell is numerically the same just uses :aether as the quanta (ie Miracle 15 :aether comsumes all your :aether) The main thing to remember is it only changes the cost of the card. Apart from Miracle (which I am still thinking about) you do not change the quanta written in the text of the card to :aether. Therefore Fire Lance, Drain Life, Stoneskin etc.. would still need :fire, :darkness and :earth respectively.
SERIES:
Not in a series Yet
Ok so a bit strange is this one but surely it can be talked about and discussed as an idea...

Changed the artwork.

Thanks

Scyther

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg114724#msg114724
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2010, 01:21:21 am »
thats a great idea can it use the spell if it wasnt on the field when used

ScytherLoL

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg114730#msg114730
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2010, 01:30:20 am »
I would say no. As per usual with creatures their abilities cannot be used on the turn they are played which would mean you couldn't use it unless it is on the field when the spell is played. (hmm 6 of these would make it interesting..)

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Scyther

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg114734#msg114734
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2010, 01:35:06 am »
I would say no. As per usual with creatures their abilities cannot be used on the turn they are played which would mean you couldn't use it unless it is on the field when the spell is played. (hmm 6 of these would make it interesting..)

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Scyther
but im saying 3 turns before the card was played the opponent plays maricle does this card get maricle still

Retribution

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg114750#msg114750
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2010, 01:49:49 am »
After you use your ability, does your ability become wove again?

DRROXO

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg114751#msg114751
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2010, 01:51:23 am »
definately not that would way op this a miricle creature with a shard of readiness wooh

Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg114761#msg114761
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2010, 02:04:37 am »
definately not that would way op this a miricle creature with a shard of readiness wooh

This is just my opinion, but it would (should?) drain all your quanta anyway. And it would only be done once in a game (or up to 6 times, if the opponent has 6 miracles). You could argue that they could reuse the same miracle, but you would need the quanta to do this (or possibly an SoR), and have your health low enough that it is worth having all quanta drained. Of course, all this is assuming wove becomes the skill after use.

I personally doubt anyone would pack 6 SoRs just to hope that the enemy has 6 miracles. It seems a very good card, especially the upped version. A nice idea, but I would give wove a cost ( :aether or maybe  :aether :aether)

I think the image could also be improved, just to bring it up the quality of recent images like pandemonium.

ScytherLoL

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg114762#msg114762
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2010, 02:06:59 am »
Yes the ability becomes Wove again.

Shard of Readiness would be activated on the ability Miracle. You use Miracle. You lose the ability and Shard of Readiness as it goes back to base status.

Therefore not OP when using Shard of Readiness as it would only work once on a spell.

To make it clear:

Tuatara|Taniwha can only copy a spell that is played while it is in play. Ie:

 1. I play Tuatara, Opponent plays Miracle I can use Miracle.
 2. Opponent plays Miracle, I play Tuatara, I cannot use Miracle.

Hope this clears it up.

Artwork: Sorry I will work on something better but haven't been able to yet.

Thanks

Scyther

DRROXO

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg114764#msg114764
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2010, 02:09:05 am »
Yes the ability becomes Wove again.

Shard of Readiness would be activated on the ability Miracle. You use Miracle. You lose the ability and Shard of Readiness as it goes back to base status.

Therefore not OP when using Shard of Readiness as it would only work once on a spell.

To make it clear:

Tuatara|Taniwha can only copy a spell that is played while it is in play. Ie:

 1. I play Tuatara, Opponent plays Miracle I can use Miracle.
 2. Opponent plays Miracle, I play Tuatara, I cannot use Miracle.

Hope this clears it up.

Thanks

Scyther
cleared up but.....
i used to carry shards of readiness 4 my deck till i sold them 4 some dumb reasont they are handy 4 grouth decks but ya

dramore

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg114785#msg114785
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2010, 02:38:12 am »
thats a great idea can it use the spell if it wasnt on the field when used
I would say no. As per usual with creatures their abilities cannot be used on the turn they are played which would mean you couldn't use it unless it is on the field when the spell is played. (hmm 6 of these would make it interesting..)

Thanks

Scyther
but im saying 3 turns before the card was played the opponent plays maricle does this card get maricle still
Got to go with Scyther on this and say no as that would be a ungodly power anywhere in the deck if it could cast the maricle that was cast 3 or 4 turns befor you even draw the creature.

Now for my question does it copy the frist spell played while it is in play or the last spell played from your opponent during a turn that it has wove as a skill?

DRROXO

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg114807#msg114807
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2010, 03:09:11 am »
thats a great idea can it use the spell if it wasnt on the field when used
I would say no. As per usual with creatures their abilities cannot be used on the turn they are played which would mean you couldn't use it unless it is on the field when the spell is played. (hmm 6 of these would make it interesting..)

Thanks

Scyther
but im saying 3 turns before the card was played the opponent plays maricle does this card get maricle still
Got to go with Scyther on this and say no as that would be a ungodly power anywhere in the deck if it could cast the maricle that was cast 3 or 4 turns befor you even draw the creature.

Now for my question does it copy the frist spell played while it is in play or the last spell played from your opponent during a turn that it has wove as a skill?
haha ya first or last

dramore

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg114810#msg114810
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2010, 03:15:53 am »
You know wometimes it just helps if I read the card right.. :)) :)) It says "last spell cast" right on the card so the whole miracle debate is almost pointless as almost anyone with a little skill and brainpower will save a spell to cast after it(assuming they can) just to keep you from copying the miracle..Funny really that make me like this card all the more.

 

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