most damage in first,second turn and third turn

[icecoldbro]

how much is the max damage in first and second turn??

ok till now max first turn damage 60

first turn 196 damage

[implosion]

In chat, we came to the conclusion that the most you can do on turn 1 is 37: 6 ball lightning, a quantum tower and a gavel.

The question is, what about turn 2? turn 3? I'm thinking maybe something like having quantum towers that give you exactly what quanta you need to play cards like elite graboids. Or fractal ball of lightning. Or something like that.

Actually, for that matter... you could play ball lightning fractal on turn 1 with quantum towers...

[Ge0metry v1.2]

3 Quantum Towers played that gave you exactly 8 and 1 whatever. Also in your hand are 1 Fractal, 4 Ball Lightning.

Play all Towers and 4 Ball Lightning, Fractal Ball Lightning, Play all.

End result is 12 Ball Lightnings, or 60 Damage.

[icecoldbro]

3 Quantum Towers played that gave you exactly 8 and 1 whatever. Also in your hand are 1 Fractal, 4 Ball Lightning.

Play all Towers and 4 Ball Lightning, Fractal Ball Lightning, Play all.

End result is 12 Ball Lightnings, or 60 Damage.

very difficult but it is possible
also love his signature(euphoria) eminem right?

[finkel]

I want to see somebody pull that off O.o
I see 14 damage first-turn all too often in pvp2 with people playing two destroyers before I even get to play a card, though it feels wonderful to recover from that brutal assault.

[implosion]

Okay... lets see. Turn one: What Euophoria said but you keep one ball lightning. 55 damage.

Next 5 turns: you get 8 more quanta, and another fractal. you play your ball lightning, fractal, and keep one for the next turn until turn 6 when you play them all. Total damage: 40 per turn for 4 turns then 45. Total damage after 6 turns: 260.

This can probably be optimized by adding a weapon on turn 1... But I have no idea what

[Ge0metry v1.2]

also love his signature(euphoria) eminem right?

yes. taken from the song Lose Yourself.

[finkel]

By M&M. Delicious. I actually like that song, which says something about it, since I dont' like much rap/traditioal hip-hop. I like alternative hip-hop (the flobots, for example, absolutely love their cover of "happy together" and also their song "no handlebars")

[Xinef]

Okay... lets see. Turn one: What Euophoria said but you keep one ball lightning. 55 damage.

Next 5 turns: you get 8 more quanta, and another fractal. you play your ball lightning, fractal, and keep one for the next turn until turn 6 when you play them all. Total damage: 40 per turn for 4 turns then 45. Total damage after 6 turns: 260.

This can probably be optimized by adding a weapon on turn 1... But I have no idea what

Right now I've got an even crazier idea, much less probable to happen, but could be quite damaging.

or mark

Starting hand:
-Gavel
-Animate Weapon
-Chaos Seed
-2 Pandemonium (unupgraded)
-3 Quantum Towers

Play the towers, you get 5 and 4 other quanta, play Gavel, fly it, cast Chaos Seed and it ends PU-ing it. Play Pandemonium, it PU's both Gavels. Repeat, to copy 4 Gavels. You end with 8 flying Gavels, each dealing 7 damage. A total of 56 damage.

Next turn you draw another Pandemonium, it copies all your Gavels, a total of 16 flying Gavels dealing 112 damage.
A legitimate 168 damage altogether second turn, without the 100x quanta in trainer


I was thinking about Flying Fahrenheits and Quantum Towers generating huge amounts of fire, but I guess that would be slower.
You could also try the Ball Lightning approach with Pandemoniums.

[yaladilae]

The only problem is, pandemonium TU's your things and gives it to your oppponent!

So you would get hit in that situation instead...

I can think of a 67 damage with a MONO!
for 2 turns...

[implosion]

Actually Yaladilae, PU'd creatures from either side wind up on your side. That's an interesting idea... kind of crazy. The quantum tower would have to generate 9 so that you could use both pandemoniums and the chaos seed. But then you would have nothing to play gavel (I think). Lets try this:

Oh, I just got a good one:

Opening hand:

-Photon
-Improved mutation (or regular)
-3x quantum tower
-2x chaos seed
-pandemonium

Basically the same thing as Xinef's: except instead of a flying gavel, you use a photon + mutation which just happens to give you a 17|5 (hp doesn't matter) crimson dragon with deja vu. You copy it with chaos seed and pandemonium, and every copy gains 5 more attack and ALSO has deja vu... on turn 2, every copy uses deja vu and all of THOSE copies have 5 more attack and deja vu... it just keeps growing. I don't feel like calculating the damage, maybe someone else can . It's tricky because there has to be enough quanta for deja vu, pandemonium, mutation and chaos seed.

With this, you could probably get a literal OTK 

[Xinef]

Last time I checked trainer, Pandemonium was 2 unupgraded (affects all creatures) and 5 upgraded (only enemy creatures), so my version is valid.

The idea with mutants is great... a crimson dragon with dive or deja vu would be great, deja vu better obvously.