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Re: Probability Revised - Fate Egg Statistics! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18930.msg242441#msg242441
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2011, 03:32:43 pm »
This is really cool. + Karma for statistics

How many games is this across?

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Re: Probability Revised - Fate Egg Statistics! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18930.msg242477#msg242477
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2011, 04:28:33 pm »
I'd be willing to lend a hand with this if you'd like one. Mayhaps I'll start running tests with unnupped fate egg?

Very interesting. I thought the only creatures on the no-hatch list were fate egg and chimera.

Earlier I ran the math assuming an even chance for each creature, but it really looks like that's a non-random distribution. Seems (at a glance, haven't done the math yet) that mid-hitters are under represented, while a lot of small fry are over represented (deathstalker, cat, damselfly, gemfinder etc.).

A couple types of dragon/nymph seem slightly over represented, but others seem slightly under represented. Really most of what I'm seeing could just be random variation though.

I'll try to calculate the average attack, hp etc. of a hatched creature later tonight.

*edit*
Results are in. I stopped at 213 hatches for reasons that should soon be apparent.

Previously I calculated the following, assuming there was no bias in creature selection:
Average Attack: 3.37
Average HP: 4.05
Average cost: 4.95
17% chance of a rare creature
15% chance of a dragon
15% chance of a nymph
47% chance of a useful* creature

After running enough games to get data I ran the stats on what I was actually getting out of fate eggs:
Average Attack: 3.27
Average HP: 4.1
Average cost: 4.94
21% chance of a rare creature
15% chance of a dragon
16% chance of a nymph
48% chance of a useful* creature

Basically, so far fate egg is behaving exactly as predicted.

Here's the gritty details if you want them:

First off, I was using this deck:
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5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 81q 81q 81q 81q 81q
I blatantly copied this table from kuro and just changed the numbers, hence even though the table gives the upgraded names, these are all the unupgraded versions of these cards.

ElementCreatureHatched #ElementCreatureHatched #ElementCreatureHatched #
:aether
Ball Lightning
2
:air
Damselfly
6
:darkness
Pest
4
:aether
Phase Recluse
1
:air
Elite Wyrm
3
:darkness
Bloodsucker
4
:aether
Immortal
0
:air
Elite Firefly
2
:darkness
Vampire
2
:aether
Elite Phase Dragon
1
:air
Elite Queen
1
:darkness
Gargoyle
1
:aether
Aether Nymph
3
:air
Sky Dragon
2
:darkness
Voodoo Doll
1
:death
Retrovirus
3
:air
Air Nymph
1
:darkness
Obsidian Dragon
6
:death
Elite Skeleton
5
:earth
Gnome Gemfinder
4
:darkness
Dark Nymph
3
:death
Flesh Recluse
1
:earth
Antlion
7
:entropy
Micro Abomination
1
:death
Condor
5
:earth
Steel Golem
2
:entropy
Werewolf
0
:death
Elite Mummy
1
:earth
Elite Graboid
2
:entropy
Maxwell's Demon
2
:death
Deathstalker
0
:earth
Elite Shrieker
3
:entropy
Fallen Druid
2
:death
Ivory Dragon
1
:earth
Basalt Dragon
4
:entropy
Schrödinger’s Cat
2
:death
Death Nymph
2
:earth
Earth Nymph
1
:entropy
Amethyst Dragon
3
:fire
Brimstone Eater
3
:gravity
Graviton Guard
2
:entropy
Purple Nymph
3
:fire
Fire Spectre
3
:gravity
Elite Armagio
3
:life
Giant Frog
1
:fire
Lava Destroyer
6
:gravity
Elite Charger
0
:life
Elite Cockatrice
4
:fire
Minor Phoenix
4
:gravity
Elite Otyugh
0
:life
Leaf Dragon
1
:fire
Ruby Dragon
1
:gravity
Graviton Firemaster
2
:life
Forest Spectre
4
:fire
Fire Nymph
4
:gravity
Massive Dragon
6
:life
Scorpion
1
:light
Ray of Light
2
:gravity
Gravity Nymph
4
:life
Jade Dragon
3
:light
Elite Pegasus
4
:time
Elite Deja Vu
1
:life
Life Nymph
3
:light
Archangel
1
:time
Fate Egg
0
:water
Physalia
5
:light
Crusader
1
:time
Elite Scarab
0
:water
Abyss Crawler
4
:light
Light Dragon
3
:time
Elite Anubis
1
:water
Puffer Fish
6
:light
Light Nymph
5
:time
Dune Scorpion
4
:water
Ulitharid
3
:time
Pharaoh
3
:water
Steam Machine
3
:time
Silurian Dragon
0
:water
Arctic Octopus
8
:time
Golden Nymph
2
:water
Arctic Dragon
2
:water
Water Nymph
3
My apologies in advance if I flumoxed the table. I'll post my excel sheet of work once I've finished crunching the numbers for elite fate egg.

*- a "useful creature" is here defined as a creature that is either rare or costs more than 4 quantum to play. While a non-rare creature costing 4 or less quantum to play can still help you, you would have been much better off playing that creature directly instead of getting it through a fate egg.

 

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