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Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43674.msg1002462#msg1002462
« on: September 24, 2012, 09:28:47 pm »
NAME:
Kitsune Trickster
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
3 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 3
TEXT:
May transform on death.
Your opponent plays with the top card of his deck revealed.
:entropy : Shuffle target deck.
NAME:
Kitsune Trickster
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
2 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 3
TEXT:
May transform on death.
Your opponent plays with the top card of his deck revealed.
:entropy : Shuffle target deck.

ART:
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IDEA:
Rework of my Kistune Trickster, Theme Inspired by Phantomfox
NOTES:
Part of a mini-series that benefits you by giving you an 'advantage' with drawing certain types of a cards. The 'top' card is displayed as a miniature card above your deck - mousing over the card will display a larger image, like most cards ingame.

Unlike it's counterparts, however, Kitsune Trickster reverses the dynamic - your opponent plays with his top card revealed, and if you feel the RNG's swinging a bit too much in his favor you have the option to reshuffle the deck and deny a draw. If you have the ability to look at your own deck with a card like Mindgate (or another Deck Manipulator of your own), you can also turn the ability to your advantage by shuffling out draws you don't want.

'Transform' is a passive ability that gives the Kitsune Trickster a 50% chance to cast Mutation | Improved Mutation on itself when killed. That way, if you find your Tricksters lobo'd or redundant but you have a reliable damage source on hand, you can attempt to kill your Tricksters and get more useful mutants.
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Re: Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43674.msg1002480#msg1002480
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 10:38:15 pm »
I like this one :) Reminds me of your other Kitsune card.
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Re: Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43674.msg1002486#msg1002486
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 11:07:31 pm »
Has good potential with mindgate.
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Re: Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43674.msg1005457#msg1005457
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2012, 01:56:17 am »
Bump.

I'd like to get more feedback on this card. Any thoughts?

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Re: Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43674.msg1005484#msg1005484
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2012, 03:50:27 am »
Would it be actually useful? I can't imagine a card in a known rainbow that can be effectively replaced by this one, nor a trickster-based deck.

It can interact with mindgate, giving the oponent a chence of getting an unplayable card, but meh.
I also guess you can shuffle your deck because it synergizes eith the other cards of the series, right?
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Re: Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43674.msg1005503#msg1005503
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2012, 05:33:36 am »
"You can see the top card of your enemy's deck." would be stronger, and more trickstery, but also possibly less angst-inducing.

The strength of this card is in its ability to deny combinations. E.g. it's sure nice you put all those cremations in your deck. Oops, we haven't seen a photon yet...

My first thought was decrease casting cost (upped and not) by  :entropy.

One more random thought: Might be better if it was very fragile (0/1) to make the transformation ability more dangerous (but improved mutation might be too much).
« Last Edit: October 06, 2012, 08:30:16 am by jawdirk »

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Re: Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43674.msg1005513#msg1005513
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2012, 06:10:03 am »
imo find an alternative to on-death for the mechanic trigger.
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Re: Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43674.msg1005523#msg1005523
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2012, 08:34:02 am »
I would lower the cost to 2 :entropy | 1 :entropy. Most times shuffle abilty is useless and also the first deck card one. It only lefts the mutantion but will be only be effective in rare cases (if you own a owl/oty or mass enemy cc).   

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Re: Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43674.msg1005774#msg1005774
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2012, 01:40:48 am »
Preferibly the shuffled card will have no chances of returning on top, since the main purpose of this card is to break combo/slow down the oppo.
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Re: Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43674.msg1006295#msg1006295
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2012, 09:39:47 pm »
I think people might be underestimating the power of this card's ability to manipulate the enemy's draw - so long as you have a constant source of :entropy , it is possible to deny combo decks their necessary draw and noncombo decks can easily be screwed out of an extra source of damage (creature), a crucial effect (creature,spell,permanent), or a way to lessen damage (spell, shield).  With Reverse Time, you can permanently get rid of a card unless your opponent runs multiple copies, while with Mindgate you can manipulate draws on both sides of the field. This doesn't account for the fact that Kitsune can also mutate on death, so multiples aren't useless (and multiples still have a utility if the first Kitsune fails at doing its job.)
For reference:
Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster
Is the card accurately priced for its disruption abilities?
Shuffling the opponent's deck while seeing their next draw is too powerful for the activation cost. It is similar to but not as powerful as a draw lock.
The transformation upon death seems unnecessary and would increase the cost beyond the other abilities.

I'm considering the following changes to the card:

Lower stats to 0 | 1 (both versions)
Lower casting cost by 1 :entropy (both versions)
Raise casting cost by 1 :entropy (both versions)

Thoughts?

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Re: Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43674.msg1006303#msg1006303
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2012, 09:57:28 pm »
Your opponent would know what his next card is too, right?

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Re: Kitsune Trickster | Kitsune Trickster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43674.msg1006305#msg1006305
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2012, 09:59:27 pm »
Your opponent would know what his next card is too, right?
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