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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463291#msg463291
« Reply #108 on: February 22, 2012, 12:28:26 am »
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Is this one known?
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463296#msg463296
« Reply #109 on: February 22, 2012, 12:41:10 am »
Challenge accepted,
Malignant cells are overused because of their attack power (?), so today I bring you... Malignant Cell OTK ! ! ! [Fun]

Because there is always room in the forums for new OTK combos.
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1.- Fill your field with cells.
2.- Play UG
3.- Soul Catcher + UG = Over 9000  :death quanta to play 4 Ivory Dragons, and finish the combo with Sky Blitz!




this is awesome and it is a real OTK because it dealt enough damage to kill a deck in 1 turn only

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463298#msg463298
« Reply #110 on: February 22, 2012, 12:45:04 am »
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Is this one known?
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I could find it in a quick search, but seems less effective than the normal cat+lots of  :death stuff deck, and much less than the -awsome- innundation synergy that mesaprotector posted here and is already in the gallery.

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Malignant cells are overused because of their attack power (?), so today I bring you... Malignant Cell OTK ! ! ! [Fun]

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1.- Fill your field with cells.
2.- Play UG
3.- Soul Catcher + UG = Over 9000  :death quanta to play 4 Ivory Dragons, and finish the combo with Sky Blitz!




this is awesome and it is a real OTK because it dealt enough damage to kill a deck in 1 turn only
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Thanks!  :D I really don't know how something like that came to my mind, I was trying to do another OTK combo with graveyards and an Eclipse to make skeles that attack after the explotion but this seems to be better ^^
Although, I don't think it deserves to be in the gallery, because there are much better ohko decks for the same amount of upped cards. I am working on something AWSOME right now, you will see  8)

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463311#msg463311
« Reply #111 on: February 22, 2012, 01:22:53 am »
Alright, sorry for the double post but I think this deserves it.

I call it Little OTK because of its small creatures, until the last blast (isn't it rare for me to make a OHKO deck? You should be all surprised):
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Stall with the shockwaves, plagues and maybe virus, while you get lots of  :death quanta thanks to the Soul Catchers. There will be a moment when you will have the posibility to do the following:
Suicide virus, suicide virus, suicide virus [...], 5x Ivory Dragon, Sky Blitz!

The perfect play would be to gain all 45 of the 50 needed quanta for the dragons just from the virus in the last turn, with the Soul Catchers in play. That's why Plagues and Shockwaves can be played even without any single Soul Catcher!

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463320#msg463320
« Reply #112 on: February 22, 2012, 01:54:45 am »
o.o It's pillarless.
Due to the fact it has no drawing power, maybe it would be a better idea to get the cards necessary for the OHKO without having to draw all 30 cards?

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463325#msg463325
« Reply #113 on: February 22, 2012, 02:18:22 am »
o.o It's pillarless.
Due to the fact it has no drawing power, maybe it would be a better idea to get the cards necessary for the OHKO without having to draw all 30 cards?
Yes, the only lone necessary card is the Sky Blitz. I was about to put another one. In regular games, the little sh!tties with 1-2 shockwaves may do 20 damage, enough to use 4 of the 5 dragons. Another thing that I have to avoid is getting full hand of repeated useless cards!
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463344#msg463344
« Reply #114 on: February 22, 2012, 03:06:33 am »
Since i still can't think of a good combo using Aflatoxin, i'll comment on the 2 decks instead.
Aflatoxin, you say?

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It's hard finding uses for it other than locking your opponent (or the SoP thing), but I think this works nicely.

Cremate an Aflatoxined BL for instant Malignant Cell, which will fill up the whole board in a few turns for 23 damage. Whenever you draw another Cremate + Ruby, you can play them as well. TTW seems to be about 7-8, but I'm sure it can be improved.
This seems nice. Malignant Cell for Cremation fodder, and pends to help the needed :fire.

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Malignant cells are overused because of their attack power (?), so today I bring you... Malignant Cell OTK ! ! ! [Fun]

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1.- Fill your field with cells.
2.- Play UG
3.- Soul Catcher + UG = Over 9000  :death quanta to play 4 Ivory Dragons, and finish the combo with Sky Blitz!




And this is real brilliance!
From what i see, it got its stalling from Instosis build, and the rest of the combo seems original. RoF will speed things up instead of screwing it.
Good work. Who says that Aflatoxin is too heavy for rainbow?
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463346#msg463346
« Reply #115 on: February 22, 2012, 03:14:59 am »
This deserves another separated post.

Based on my recent Malignant Cell OTK made for the Afla Challenge, I made an unupped version of Little OTK. If it works like it seems, it may be  REALLY NICE unupped deck!
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Different ways to reach 100 damage in 1 turn: Immolate a dragonfly and...
... Explode 1 UG with 5 Soul Catchers and 3 dying creatures + 4 Bone Dragons and Sky Blitz.
... Explode 1 UG with 4 Soul Catchers and 4 dying creatures + 4 Bone Dragons and Sky Blitz.
... Explode 2 UG with 5 Soul Catchers and 2 dying creatures + 3 Bone Dragons and Sky Blitz.
... Explode 2 UG with 4 Soul Catchers and 3 dying creatures + 3 Bone Dragons and Sky Blitz.
... Explode 2 UG with 3 Soul Catchers and 4 dying creatures + 3 Bone Dragons and Sky Blitz.
_ Dying creatures are Dragonflies and 1HP oponent's creatures - or 2HP oponent's reatures if exploding 2 UGs.
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_ May need less dragons vecause of the Dragonflies damage!

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It has more control/stalling stuff, but needs more draw accuracy. Maybe longer but more safety matches ^^
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463349#msg463349
« Reply #116 on: February 22, 2012, 03:28:43 am »
This deserves another separated post.

Based on my recent Malignant Cell OTK made for the Afla Challenge, I made an unupped version of Little OTK. If it works like it seems, it may be  REALLY NICE unupped deck!
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Sadly it doesn't.
The difference between 2 :death and 3:death means 5 Soul Catcher = 1 Dragon. 4 upped Soul Catcher = 1 Dragon (or 3 if you use Immo)
Difference between 1 :air and free means slower start. I've tested this several times, it's not that effective.

EDIT: it works good. I guess i just failed the testing because i'm not used to it... Yet.
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463355#msg463355
« Reply #117 on: February 22, 2012, 03:49:15 am »
This deserves another separated post.

Based on my recent Malignant Cell OTK made for the Afla Challenge, I made an unupped version of Little OTK. If it works like it seems, it may be  REALLY NICE unupped deck!
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Sadly it doesn't.
The difference between 2 :death and 3:death means 5 Soul Catcher = 1 Dragon. 4 upped Soul Catcher = 1 Dragon (or 3 if you use Immo)
Difference between 1 :air and free means slower start. I've tested this several times, it's not that effective.
Actually, it does it pretty good. It starts a bit slower because the 1 :air cost, but it finishes with all the powa! A good advantage is that many times the dragonflies do 20 damage, so you need a dragon less.

Just did it without an UG because the Immolation was in the last 5 cards and shockwaves + scarabs gave me 70  :death quanta. If it beats the Scarab deck, it beats everything!
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463406#msg463406
« Reply #118 on: February 22, 2012, 07:47:40 am »
Or maybe Scarabs? Rainbow control?
I made an unupped version a while ago:
Scarabtal: (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27455.msg398512.html#msg398512)
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This deck was mainly made for pvp1 and it is quite good for this purpose.

Also a while ago but upped - I loved the TU strategy of Doomeister:
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This is typically a pvp2 deck but in the original thread their is also a FG-killer version.

On a side note: I think it would be nice if the deck you guys post had either an indication of the level they are meant to beat or at least a couple of screen-shots. It has 2 interests: (a) One can see very fast where you have to test it in order to tune/tweak it (b) It avoids you to post decks which look good on paper and will never work in-game (e.g. because you lack the first :life etc...).

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463417#msg463417
« Reply #119 on: February 22, 2012, 10:07:06 am »
Ooh, that Scarabtal. Yes, i've seen that before.
The Scarab lance is also good.

For your suggestion, i think it is on tradition to test decks against AI3 on default. Unless stated otherwise, the deck is mainly used against AI3. But yes, i get the point. Good one.
We can use the tagging system commonly found here, like [AI3] [AI4] [AI5], and the other tags for the deck idea posted here too.
For the screenshot, it's for the tested decks. Some decks are just yet to be tested, but for the tested decks, it's also a good idea.
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