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Harmonic Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3363.msg29048#msg29048
« on: February 24, 2010, 06:43:27 pm »
Dual pillars have been proposed a couple of times already to aid two and three-colored decks, yet would typically require the creation of 66x2 new cards. This here approach would cut that to 12x2.

Harmonic Aether Pillar
Type: Permanent (Pillar)
Cost: None
Effect: Gives 1 :aether at the end of every turn.
Activated Ability: 1 Random Quantum: Attune the stack of pillars to produce the same type of quanta as your elemental mark.

->Upgraded version:
Ability is free.

Additional notes: The ability would work the same way as Armagio's; you could toggle it on or off. Turning it on would cost 1 quanta for the whole stack. With the ability active the pillars would produce quanta in the color of your mark instead of their regular one.

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Re: Harmonic Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3363.msg29059#msg29059
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 07:34:11 pm »
So normally they produce one type, but I can click them to turn them to my Mark type? Why, sounds like a pretty good idea, and balanced, too. Doesn't really work like "two elements from single type of pillar + marksplash", but that's a step.

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Re: Harmonic Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3363.msg29073#msg29073
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 08:50:20 pm »
So would a harmoniced quantum piller produce 3x of a single element?

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Re: Harmonic Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3363.msg29090#msg29090
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2010, 09:53:54 pm »
So would a harmoniced quantum piller produce 3x of a single element?
There wouldn't even be a need for one, I believe. Rainbows are strong enough as is - this is supposed to provide a boost to duo- and trio- decks.

Had I intended for Harmonic Quantum Pillars from the beggining I would have worded the ability a bit differently. They would have to produce only one quantum per turn when their ability was active, just like any other harmonic pillar. Still I think these would help rainbows more than they would duo- decks.

Edit: Come to think of it, Harmonic Quantum Pillars could well be overpowered even at 1x quantum production...

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Re: Harmonic Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3363.msg29924#msg29924
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2010, 05:15:04 am »
I like this idea.

Although, if those cards are really made... Some n00b is going to complain that he toggled the ability on, but forgot to toggle it off, and he got no Aether quanta for the rest of the game.
To be or not to be, I can do both at once. Go learn quantum mechanics, n00b.

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Re: Harmonic Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3363.msg29929#msg29929
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2010, 05:53:05 am »
Best thing about this idea over dual pillars is that it really keeps with the dual deck idea...you can't have dual pillars + your mark for a trimark deck with these, which i very much appreciate. Mono decks are good because they're fast, but they are weak (essentially) because of lack of card stock. As you go up in marks, you get more stock, but less speed...this puts dual decks on a closer level to mono decks, while making tri decks require a lot more thinking... ++

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Re: Harmonic Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3363.msg29932#msg29932
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2010, 06:04:47 am »
cool idea, but it does need some sort of drawback. as it is now, it is strictly better than a regular pillar.

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Re: Harmonic Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3363.msg29936#msg29936
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2010, 06:13:53 am »
not too sure that it's all THAT much better then regular pillars, maybe make unupped ability cost 2, upped cost 1, without the comes-into-play ability of Towers...but the fact is it still only gets you one quantum a turn, and costs quantum to change. Also, you could make it produce NO quantum the turn you change it over...that could be interesting

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Re: Harmonic Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3363.msg29938#msg29938
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2010, 06:18:12 am »
Or you could just keep them as is and limit them to 6 per deck.

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Re: Harmonic Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3363.msg29943#msg29943
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2010, 06:43:25 am »
Sorry, too much MtG makes me think duals are always limited...

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Re: Harmonic Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3363.msg29950#msg29950
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2010, 07:35:59 am »
Or you could just keep them as is and limit them to 6 per deck.
again, keeping them as is, there wouldn't be any good reason not to include 6 of them.

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Re: Harmonic Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3363.msg32179#msg32179
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2010, 10:37:12 pm »
Or you could just keep them as is and limit them to 6 per deck.
A six per deck limit would make sense.

again, keeping them as is, there wouldn't be any good reason not to include 6 of them.
Well they're supposed to be beneficial to duo/trio decks, so these decks should find them worth including. Mono and rainbow decks on the other hand I don't see finding these preferable to the current pillars.

 

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