Apep: Time Creature

[ScytherLoL]

So fitting with the Egyptian Mythology for Time here is Apep. I read a thread about creatures with rewind and have tried to fit that in. I am unsure if the time bubble should be for 1 or 2 turns, I originally thought 2 but have changed it to 1. It is now 2 turns for the time bubble. The cost of the creatre is high and the ability is more costly than standard rewind. I would expect this card to come under the rare category though maybe not uber-rare. Also would be classed the same as Arctic Squid/Fallen Angel(lol) as a rare.

Your comments are appreciated.

Apep/Elite Apep


edit: Modified the time bubble to 2

So as you can see a powerful creature it is. I hope this attracts your attention and if anyone would like to test it that would be great as I am interested in hearing how it has or hasn't worked.

Thankyou

Scyther

[Chemist]

I love the art, but this is, uh... not too unlike an animated Eternity. It's got fewer hit points, a higher cost and that time bubble drawback, but doesn't require an Animate Weapon card.

Now being that similar to Eternity I can't really picture it as another rare, but on the other hand I don't know if it wouldn't be overpowered for a common. (And by that I mean I honestly don't know because I play aether most of the time.)

[ScytherLoL]

Yes i though that maybe it would fit under the category of uncommon, ie you can't buy it but it turns up at a simliar rate to weapons.

I know it is similar to Eternity but I thought hey a creature would be nice with that skill so I brought it to the table so to speak.

Thanks for your help

Scyther

[Glitch]

The problem is you can halve deck speeds with one Apep, and completely shut down decks with more than one.

Change the time bubble to at least two turns, and make it a rare like the squid, and then it seems awesome.

[Lanidrak]

I'm with glitch...

Make Time Bubble x2 turns. Make it a rare like Arctic Squid. Then it's perfect.

Also, maybe reduce the cost of the ability to 2 . And the cost of the card to 5 .

I'll link to a topic I'm about to create, similar idea and your card suggestion reminded me of it.

[icybraker]

I think the quantum cost is fine for such a powerful creature. Very nice, but, as everyone said, it should be rare.

We should have 1 rare creature card for every element (besides the Nymphs ). Very nice card; a more expensive Flying Eternity that can shut down decks but requires a lot of effort to field.

Side note: I always thought the demon-snake that fought Osiris was Apophis, but a quick Google search lead that Apophis and Apep were the same thing. Apophis sounds cooler, though.

[ScytherLoL]

Yes Apophis is the Greek spelling of the name, I was sticking with the original Egyptian.

Ok so I'll make it 2 turns for the bubble but leave the cost the same.

Sounds goo to me.

Thankyou very much

Scyther

[Lanidrak]

Here is my alternative suggestion for a rare-time card:

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3573.0.html

Instead of posting the idea itself here, I thought I'd have to courtesy to put it in it's own topic.

Finally, sorry for the topic hijack Scyther, but I think Time has enough 'rewind' ability as it is with Flying Eternities.

Card Advantage: The number of cards you draw each turn - the number of cards your opponent draws each turn.

A card advantage of +1 per Hourglass in play, +1 per sundial, and +1 per Precognition, and the ability to reduce your opponents card advantage by -1 per Rewind and -1 for an Eternity, gives Time an average card advantage of +5 to your opponent.

Just to point out:
6 Rewind Times
6 Precognitions
6 Sundials
6 Hourglasses
6 Eternities

This will give you a total card advantage of ridiculous portions. Your opponent will never really get a new card into play, and you can whiz through your deck very quickly, getting everything on the table as soon as possible. You also stop yourself from decking out.

So, Time is already riddled with cards, effects, and abilities which can drastically alter the Card Advantage of a given game, albeit on the short term (Rewind, Precognition and Sundial) or on the long term (Eternity and Hourglasses)... I think Time will become far too strong if it is given more abilities such as rewind.

Simply put, by effectively stopping your opponent from drawing any new cards (by rewinding, and forcing him to play/not play the same card over and over again) is a very dangerous and effective aspect of any card game. It is simply put, overpowered. But I do like your ideas scyther. Flying Eternities already do what this does, and for a good reason: Eternities are Rare. They require a secondary card to have more than 1 in play (Animate Weapon). This secondary card must be upgraded for it to work in a mono deck.

There, said my piece

[ScytherLoL]

Yes you are right it proably has enough rewind, I did consider other options for the ability or just leaving it out and having a creature for time but ended up with Rewind after all.

I have changed the Time Bubble to 2 now.

I will go look now.

Thanks

Scyther