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Stalled but ready to go (FG OTK) [SoR+Mitosis+Dragons+Sun Dials] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32122.msg406028#msg406028
« on: October 07, 2011, 10:12:00 pm »
Based on the discussions we had on the beta decks board. Where did those threads disappear to?

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Can kill false gods. Is fairly quick. Don't have time to do stats or much testing (as I don't have these cards).

It looks like the Limitless speed (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31570.0.html) thread has picked up on this idea.

So why use sundials vs phase shields? For a OTK deck as long as you have sufficient quanta it is changing your win condition by 2 turns compared to three (1 for the no attack and 1 for the extra card). You need less quanta 2 vs 5 so less pendulums. Less need of healing because momentum isn't an issue and poison has less time to build up.

No idea if this is better or not in general. But has a different set of trade offs.

It works better upped you need the SN and dragon at the minimum. Precogs, SoRs and time towers best upped. The others should be okay, although sky blitz might be an issue now and then.

Problems for this deck:
SoRs eating your air quanta so you can't Blitz (especially if you've only had 4 SN).
Deflagrations/steals
Black Holes/Pests
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Re: Stalled but ready to go (FG OTK) [SoR+Mitosis+Dragons+Sun Dials] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32122.msg406042#msg406042
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2011, 10:26:12 pm »
It looks like the Limitless speed (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31570.0.html) thread has picked up on this idea.
The bad thing of this deck is that you need the correct cards in the correct order yo play the combo, what is pretty unlikely. You need the 4 Supernovas, at least a tower and a couple of turns before getting the 8-card combo. You deck is just like Dragoon's OTK FG and HB (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19150.0.html), with another (and less stable because of those hungry SoRs wanting to eat your precious and limited air and gravity quanta) combo.

That's the reason i put a different version in my thread  Limitless Speed FG OTK (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31570.0.html) other than a PSN. Having a fatty deck highly increments the chances of getting excess of quanta and SoRs won't eat the needed one for the combo. I am working on a slim version by the way, not stable enough to be posted yet.
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Re: Stalled but ready to go (FG OTK) [SoR+Mitosis+Dragons+Sun Dials] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32122.msg406073#msg406073
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 11:32:09 pm »
The precogs make it fairly different to how it plays. And that it is a seven card combo against shield less decks makes a difference . I've gotten  11 turn wins with the deck.. So yeah less stable but probably faster. Depends if you care about won rate or electrum per hour.

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Re: Stalled but ready to go (FG OTK) [SoR+Mitosis+Dragons+Sun Dials] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32122.msg406082#msg406082
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2011, 11:40:44 pm »
The precogs make it fairly different to how it plays. And that it is a seven card combo against shield less decks makes a difference . I've gotten  11 turn wins with the deck.. So yeah less stable but probably faster. Depends if you care about won rate or electrum per hour.
I have been testing it for a while, and wins really few FGs. The reason is that even with 6 precogs, 6 sundials and waiting as long as you can efore the 1st dial, most of the times you get outrushed before you get the combo.
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Re: Stalled but ready to go (FG OTK) [SoR+Mitosis+Dragons+Sun Dials] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32122.msg416801#msg416801
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 02:43:14 am »
Based on the discussions we had on the beta decks board. Where did those threads disappear to?
Um really late response, but...

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