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Burn Baby Burn | Burn Baby Burn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27279.msg346768#msg346768
« on: June 06, 2011, 02:09:12 pm »
NAME:
Burn, Baby, Burn!
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
3 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Until the end of your turn, each time a permanent is destroyed, generate :fire :fire :entropy :entropy and one Ash Eater.
NAME:
Burn, Baby, Burn!
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
2 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Until the end of your turn, each time a permanent is destroyed, generate :fire :entropy :entropy and one Brimstone Eater.
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Re: Burn Baby Burn | Burn Baby Burn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27279.msg346874#msg346874
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2011, 06:06:14 pm »
Would EQ trigger this thrice?

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Re: Burn Baby Burn | Burn Baby Burn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27279.msg346942#msg346942
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 08:15:34 pm »
Would EQ trigger this thrice?
I would imagine so, since even though pillars are in stacks, they are each a single permanent card.


Could you explain the following:

Why would there need to be a  :fire and  :entropy in the game, when there is Snova and Cremation (technically sacrificial nova with 8 extra :fire)

What main strategies would this be able to form between  :fire and  :entropy ?


The obvious positives: I see this functioning very well with earthquakes and butterfy effect, also If a deck between  :fire :entropy, also good with Explosion. 

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Re: Burn Baby Burn | Burn Baby Burn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27279.msg347026#msg347026
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 09:27:31 pm »
Would EQ trigger this thrice?
I would imagine so, since even though pillars are in stacks, they are each a single permanent card.


Could you explain the following:

Why would there need to be a  :fire and  :entropy in the game, when there is Snova and Cremation (technically sacrificial nova with 8 extra :fire )

What main strategies would this be able to form between  :fire and  :entropy ?


The obvious positives: I see this functioning very well with earthquakes and butterfy effect, also If a deck between  :fire :entropy , also good with Explosion.
Most of entropy cards are CC, and some of them are PC.
Combining it with fire (Deflag / Explosion) will increase the PC. So i think this card was made for fun PC+CC game.

The reason to be a fire and entropy in the game is for the alternate quanta generator. Some combo (This + Cremation) works, too. (Ex = destroyed electrum hourglasses with deflag = -2 :fire , gain  :entropy :entropy :fire + Brimstone eater. Cremate Brimstone, gain 9 :fire + 1each element (except  :fire ) So the total quanta you gain = 8 :fire + 2 :entropy + 1 :aether :air :darkness :death :earth :gravity :life :light :time :water )

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Re: Burn Baby Burn | Burn Baby Burn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27279.msg347044#msg347044
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 09:50:36 pm »
Most of entropy cards are CC, and some of them are PC.
Combining it with fire (Deflag / Explosion) will increase the PC. So i think this card was made for fun PC+CC game.

The reason to be a fire and entropy in the game is for the alternate quanta generator. Some combo (This + Cremation) works, too. (Ex = destroyed electrum hourglasses with deflag = -2 :fire , gain  :entropy :entropy :fire + Brimstone eater. Cremate Brimstone, gain 9 :fire + 1each element (except  :fire ) So the total quanta you gain = 8 :fire + 2 :entropy + 1 :aether :air :darkness :death :earth :gravity :life :light :time :water )
If you are implying that the only thing this does is give you an extra :entropy quanta - 1 :fire since cremation gives you 9 fire quanta + 1 for each element, Thats not a very good reason at all.

And (no offense) I was hoping to get Essence to answer that question.

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Re: Burn Baby Burn | Burn Baby Burn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27279.msg347118#msg347118
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2011, 12:02:56 am »
Also, you guys have messed up your calculations. You have a net gain of -1  :entropy unupped, and a net gain of 0 :entropy upped. I'd use this for a heavy  :entropy :fire control deck (maxwell, mutation, deflag, butterfly effect, RP, etc.)

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Re: Burn Baby Burn | Burn Baby Burn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27279.msg347122#msg347122
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2011, 12:12:53 am »
Also, you guys have messed up your calculations. You have a net gain of -1  :entropy unupped, and a net gain of 0 :entropy upped. I'd use this for a heavy  :entropy :fire control deck (maxwell, mutation, deflag, butterfly effect, RP, etc.)

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Wrong again, remember, we are including the scenario of cremation as well, thus: pay 2 :entropy, recieve 2 :entropy and 1 :fire, play B. eater, Cremate, + 9 :fire and + 1 all non-fire.
Therefore you gain +1 :entropy upped with cremation scenario.

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Re: Burn Baby Burn | Burn Baby Burn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27279.msg347124#msg347124
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2011, 12:14:56 am »
OK, the name of the game with this card is 'multiples'.  With just one BBB in play and destroying one permanent, it's kind of...lame.

But if you play two BBBs and then destroy two permanents , you create a net gain of :entropy :entropy :entropy :entropy :fire :fire :fire :fire :fire :fire :fire :fire (minus the cost of whatever destroyed the permanents) and 4 Ash (Brimstone) Eaters.  The decks that this would allow are charge decks that open with decently heavy control and then rely on springing a few BBBs and some PC to generate a startling amount of quanta and play some big hairy creatures for the kill.   Also, a 'rainbow' deck with BBB and EQ/Trident and an Aether mark could do some serious Van Dammage with Fractal and that monster pile of quanta.
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Re: Burn Baby Burn | Burn Baby Burn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27279.msg347128#msg347128
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2011, 12:19:08 am »
Also, you guys have messed up your calculations. You have a net gain of -1  :entropy unupped, and a net gain of 0 :entropy upped. I'd use this for a heavy  :entropy :fire control deck (maxwell, mutation, deflag, butterfly effect, RP, etc.)

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Wrong again, remember, we are including the scenario of cremation as well, thus: pay 2 :entropy, recieve 2 :entropy and 1 :fire, play B. eater, Cremate, + 9 :fire and + 1 all non-fire.
Therefore you gain +1 :entropy upped with cremation scenario.
oops; forgot about the creamation. ^-^
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