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Cinderling | Cinderling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26325.msg334851#msg334851
« on: May 16, 2011, 07:23:20 pm »
NAME:
Cinderling
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
4 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|5
TEXT:
Destroy 1 quantum from your opponent per turn. 
:fire Ember: This creature gains +3|+0 until end of turn.
NAME:
Cinderling
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
4 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5|5
TEXT:
Destroy 1 quantum from your opponent per turn. 
:fire Ember: This creature gains +3|+0 until end of turn.
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EmeraldTiger
NOTES:
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Re: Cinderling | Cinderling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26325.msg334888#msg334888
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2011, 08:14:10 pm »
How about Ember as an ability name?
Unupgraded seems a little weak with the constant maintainence for damage, even when taking Eclipse into consideration I'd suggest a + 1 attack for the unupped.

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Re: Cinderling | Cinderling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26325.msg334900#msg334900
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2011, 08:30:05 pm »
OK, that sounds good, I was wondering why people in chat said it was UP.
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Re: Cinderling | Cinderling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26325.msg334913#msg334913
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2011, 08:40:42 pm »
OK, that sounds good, I was wondering why people in chat said it was UP.
It is UP. Ember is a +0quanta skill.
The base attack should be increased to 3|4 and the base hp to 6|7
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Re: Cinderling | Cinderling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26325.msg334921#msg334921
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2011, 08:47:03 pm »
before changing it here, please look at the one in my workshop and tell me if that what you meant.
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Re: Cinderling | Cinderling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26325.msg334926#msg334926
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2011, 08:50:33 pm »
before changing it here, please look at the one in my workshop and tell me if that what you meant.
I suggest linking the workshop version within the NOTES section, similar to how you've linked the actual thread in your workshop. It makes navigation easier.

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Re: Cinderling | Cinderling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26325.msg334961#msg334961
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 09:25:42 pm »
looks good, hope it sticks :D

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Re: Cinderling | Cinderling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26325.msg335072#msg335072
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2011, 12:12:52 am »
this needs a passive ability to better balance it.
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Re: Cinderling | Cinderling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26325.msg335098#msg335098
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 12:41:41 am »
Maybe ember is +2, wears off 1/turn or summin. Or is that too much like steam engine?

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Re: Cinderling | Cinderling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26325.msg335198#msg335198
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2011, 03:25:01 am »
I would like a passive that fits Cinderling's Darkness side.

Think of it this way Cinderling has a Darkness shell with a Fire core. If some were to meet with one of these at first they would think they have come upon a minor shade. That would until it revealed the fire inside.
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Re: Cinderling | Cinderling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26325.msg335221#msg335221
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2011, 04:04:00 am »
I think it is a little bit OP statwise, am I just completely wrong?
Lets see 2 for 5 = giant frog (vanilla)
giant frog 5|3
cinderling 5|5 + ability

also a possible passive is just the one skeleton (undead?) has.
On RT they become the creature it was before being burned...

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Re: Cinderling | Cinderling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26325.msg335230#msg335230
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2011, 04:18:51 am »
I think it is a little bit OP statwise, am I just completely wrong?
Lets see 2 for 5 = giant frog (vanilla)
giant frog 5|3
cinderling 5|5 + ability

also a possible passive is just the one skeleton (undead?) has.
On RT they become the creature it was before being burned...
Currently it needs a valuable passive ability to become balanceable.

3 :darkness = 3 [Attack] -1 ([Ember]-[Duo]) +1 (Passive ability) -1 (Draw Cost)
3 :darkness = 5 [Attack] -1 ([Ember]-[Duo]) +1 (Passive ability) -1 (Draw Cost) -2 (upgraded)
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