Satyr | Pan

[EmeraldTiger]

NAME: Satyr ELEMENT: Life COST: ? TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: ?|? TEXT: ?	NAME: Pan ELEMENT: Life COST: ? TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: ?|? TEXT: ?

ART: Thalas IDEA: EmeraldTiger NOTES: When Satyr | Pan dies, Satyr Pipes | Pan Flute is dropped into your weapon slot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_(god) SERIES: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22594.0.html

I want to use something from the myth for this idea.

[Jappert]

Maybe some sort of ritual dance or seduction?

- A ritual dance could give surrounding creatures +1/-1 (just a suggestion ofc)
- Seduction could cause the target creature's damage to be halved.
- A more complicated suggestion would be to give Satyr or Pan a passive evasion skill combined with the activated skill "mock". Mock would cause the target creature to attack Satyr. This attack could then possibly be dodged or cause Satyr to die after wich the flute appears in your weapon slot. That might be a bit to much though

I'll try to think up some more if this is helpfull.

[HeartNotes]

I think this card should give Nymphs a buff!  Or act like a high-cost Pandemonium on a cost (2 Entropy cost?)

Of course, one could argue Nymphs don't need a buff... but you could have text like, "If a Nymph is on the field, Satyr gains +2/0 or some other effect... Satyrs are pretty famous for chasing after nymphs in Greek mythology. Or maybe I just read too much Xanth as a kid.

[EmeraldTiger]

I like the idea of the doing something for Nymphs.

[Jappert]

Ritual Dance: Halves all nymphs' abilities cost for this turn.

Ritual Dance: All nymph's abilities can be used twice this turn.

Nymphs are all about their skills so I suggest using that.

[SnoWeb]

Is the flute a stand alone card or is this the only way to play it?
What happen when the weapon slot is already occupied by a weapon (e.g. eternity or pulveriser)?

[EmeraldTiger]

Would it be more OP as a stand alone?
My first thought is it would take the place of any weapon.

[OldTrees]

Simplify the card. Have the ability "Melody".
When it dies the weapon with "Melody" appears in the weapon slot.

I will leave it to ZBlader to balance this card for now. I am in the process of dropping one theory for another.

[ZephyrPhantom]

Well... the thing is that I relied on OT's theory as well. 

Fortunatley, the card has a lot of room for development.

I'd say the current ability does little to the cost since it would require at least a trio for it to work efficiently. How about -

Satyr | Pan
3 | 3 
ATK: 2 | 2
HP : 3 | 3
Text : "Creates a Satyr Pipes/Pan Flute upon death."

or

Satyr | Pan
3 | 3 
ATK: 3 | 3
HP : 3 | 3
Text (unupped) :
" Ritual Dance: Halves all nymphs' abilities cost for this turn."
Text (upped) :
" Ritual Dance: All nymph's abilities can be used twice this turn."

[rohlfo]

like the idea of a nymph buff!
Do you want the two cards to definitely fit together? They do sound like they should, not sure how's best atm though.
If they are gained upon pan's death, and he's (amongst others) god of hunting, I'd be tempted to suggest a less standard stats of something like 3|1 or 4|2 etc, maybe even 5|2..

[EmeraldTiger]

I guess most want it to affect Nymph abilities.

We should study this first.

If it affects abilities   skill cost    skill cost    skill cost    skill cost   skill cost   skill cost   skill cost |   skill cost   skill cost   skill cost |    skill cost   skill cost

If it affect Stats   7|4 -|- 8|4   3|2 -|- 6|2   3|5 -|- 5|5   0|4 -|- 0|7   0|3 -|- 0|5   3|1 -|- 3|2   1|6 -|- 1|7   1|3 -|- 1|4   3|6 -|- 3|7   1|9 -|- 1|9   6|8 -|- 7|9   1|3 -|- 1|4

I'm looking for a balanced buff that would be fair and objective.

[SteppingStone81]

Synergy with nymphs is a great and thematic idea!

Going along the idea of thematic buffs, perhaps the satyr could give a little extra attention to one nymph and make her ability free, e.g.

: Target nymph's ability now costs 0 quanta