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Title: Satyr | Pan
Post by: EmeraldTiger on March 08, 2011, 04:12:28 pm

(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd153598/Satyr.png)	(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd153599/SatyrPan.png)
NAME: Satyr ELEMENT: Life COST: ? :life TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: ?|? TEXT: ?	NAME: Pan ELEMENT: Life COST: ? :life TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: ?|? TEXT: ?

ART: Thalas IDEA: EmeraldTiger NOTES: When Satyr | Pan dies, Satyr Pipes | Pan Flute is dropped into your weapon slot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_(god) SERIES: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22594.0.html

I want to use something from the myth for this idea.

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: Jappert on March 08, 2011, 04:22:02 pm

Maybe some sort of ritual dance or seduction?

- A ritual dance could give surrounding creatures +1/-1 (just a suggestion ofc)
- Seduction could cause the target creature's damage to be halved.
- A more complicated suggestion would be to give Satyr or Pan a passive evasion skill combined with the activated skill "mock". Mock would cause the target creature to attack Satyr. This attack could then possibly be dodged or cause Satyr to die after wich the flute appears in your weapon slot. That might be a bit to much though :D

I'll try to think up some more if this is helpfull.

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: HeartNotes on March 08, 2011, 04:31:40 pm

I think this card should give Nymphs a buff!  ;D Or act like a high-cost Pandemonium on a cost (2 Entropy cost?)

Of course, one could argue Nymphs don't need a buff... but you could have text like, "If a Nymph is on the field, Satyr gains +2/0 or some other effect... Satyrs are pretty famous for chasing after nymphs in Greek mythology. Or maybe I just read too much Xanth as a kid.

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: EmeraldTiger on March 08, 2011, 04:40:45 pm

I like the idea of the doing something for Nymphs.

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: Jappert on March 08, 2011, 04:46:54 pm

:life :life Ritual Dance: Halves all nymphs' abilities cost for this turn.

:life :life :life Ritual Dance: All nymph's abilities can be used twice this turn.

Nymphs are all about their skills so I suggest using that. ;)

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: SnoWeb on March 08, 2011, 04:53:38 pm

Is the flute a stand alone card or is this the only way to play it?
What happen when the weapon slot is already occupied by a weapon (e.g. eternity or pulveriser)?

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: EmeraldTiger on March 08, 2011, 05:01:39 pm

Would it be more OP as a stand alone?
My first thought is it would take the place of any weapon.

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: OldTrees on March 08, 2011, 10:17:09 pm

Simplify the card. Have the ability "Melody".
When it dies the weapon with "Melody" appears in the weapon slot.

I will leave it to ZBlader to balance this card for now. I am in the process of dropping one theory for another.

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on March 08, 2011, 10:59:12 pm

Well... the thing is that I relied on OT's theory as well.  :-\

Fortunatley, the card has a lot of room for development.

I'd say the current ability does little to the cost since it would require at least a trio for it to work efficiently. How about -

Satyr | Pan
3 :life | 3  :rainbow
ATK: 2 | 2
HP : 3 | 3
Text : "Creates a Satyr Pipes/Pan Flute upon death."

or

Satyr | Pan
3 :life | 3  :life
ATK: 3 | 3
HP : 3 | 3
Text (unupped) :
":life :life Ritual Dance: Halves all nymphs' abilities cost for this turn."
Text (upped) :
":life :life :life Ritual Dance: All nymph's abilities can be used twice this turn."

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: rohlfo on March 09, 2011, 09:28:11 am

like the idea of a nymph buff!
Do you want the two cards to definitely fit together? They do sound like they should, not sure how's best atm though.
If they are gained upon pan's death, and he's (amongst others) god of hunting, I'd be tempted to suggest a less standard stats of something like 3|1 or 4|2 etc, maybe even 5|2..

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: EmeraldTiger on March 09, 2011, 03:44:06 pm

I guess most want it to affect Nymph abilities.

We should study this first.

If it affects abilities  :aether skill cost  :aether :aether :aether  :air skill cost  :air :air :air  :darkness skill cost  :darkness :darkness  :death skill cost :death  :earth skill cost :earth :earth :earth  :entropy skill cost :entropy :entropy :entropy :entropy  :fire skill cost :fire :fire :fire | :fire :fire :fire :fire  :gravity skill cost :gravity :gravity :gravity  :life skill cost :life :life  :light skill cost :light :light :light :light |  :light :light :light  :time skill cost :time :time  :water skill cost :water :water :water :water

If it affect Stats  :aether 7|4 -|- 8|4  :air 3|2 -|- 6|2  :darkness 3|5 -|- 5|5  :death 0|4 -|- 0|7  :earth 0|3 -|- 0|5  :entropy 3|1 -|- 3|2  :fire 1|6 -|- 1|7  :gravity 1|3 -|- 1|4  :life 3|6 -|- 3|7  :light 1|9 -|- 1|9  :time 6|8 -|- 7|9  :water 1|3 -|- 1|4

I'm looking for a balanced buff that would be fair and objective.

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: SteppingStone81 on March 09, 2011, 04:03:52 pm

Synergy with nymphs is a great and thematic idea!

Going along the idea of thematic buffs, perhaps the satyr could give a little extra attention to one nymph and make her ability free, e.g.

:life :life :life : Target nymph's ability now costs 0 quanta

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: Kaos. on March 09, 2011, 04:12:20 pm

Quote from: SteppingStone81 on March 09, 2011, 04:03:52 pm

Synergy with nymphs is a great and thematic idea!

Going along the idea of thematic buffs, perhaps the satyr could give a little extra attention to one nymph and make her ability free, e.g.

:life :life :life : Target nymph's ability now costs 0 quanta

I'm afraid it could be too situational with an ability linked only to nymphs.^^

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: SteppingStone81 on March 09, 2011, 08:27:35 pm

Quote from: Kaos. on March 09, 2011, 04:12:20 pm

Quote from: SteppingStone81 on March 09, 2011, 04:03:52 pm

Synergy with nymphs is a great and thematic idea!

Going along the idea of thematic buffs, perhaps the satyr could give a little extra attention to one nymph and make her ability free, e.g.

:life :life :life : Target nymph's ability now costs 0 quanta

I'm afraid it could be too situational with an ability linked only to nymphs.^^

An ability linked only to nymphs would certainly not see all that much play; nonetheless, it could be a nice thematic twist for a satyr|pan card whose stats were otherwise differentiated among life creatures (maybe a robust creature with 3 or 6 attack for adrenaline synergy?)

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: storyteller on July 18, 2011, 06:16:42 pm

it should stop nymph abilities.

 :time :time All Nymphs Delayed One Turn.

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: moomoose on July 18, 2011, 06:26:11 pm

doh, was thinking about making a card based on this creature, didnt notice it was already taken.

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: storyteller on July 18, 2011, 06:31:15 pm

Quote from: moomoose on July 18, 2011, 06:26:11 pm

doh, was thinking about making a card based on this creature, didnt notice it was already taken.

there is simply no reason to not explore your own interpretation of this concept.

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: moomoose on July 18, 2011, 06:33:49 pm

except that its considered rude to make a card that someone else has already started working on

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: Smurrf on July 18, 2011, 10:43:19 pm

Since this has been necro'd, and also since nothing except a name and element have been chosen, would this not be better placed in the Pre-Smithy Ideas?

Title: Re: Satyr | Pan
Post by: moomoose on July 18, 2011, 11:17:58 pm

pre-smithy probably wasnt around at the time of thread creation, me thinks.  but yeah, i think et would have posted it there today had he started the thread now rather than before.