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The Newby Half Blood Farmer V3!!! Anti... Bolt? 1 Rare, No Upgrades v1.92+ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg263348#msg263348
« on: February 03, 2011, 05:05:47 am »
This is the Main Build you should use, it has the best success rate. (h8 patch notes that destroy decks)
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THIS DECK NOW NEEDS FAHRENHEIT (not in image)!!
The Farhenheit will do 19 dmg (4+15 from the 75+ quanta you should have)

It may be smart to add 1 more nova, and 1 protect/enchant artifact so that you can quint it.

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Rage Potion
Fahrenheit
Explosions

Im currently running this with +3 Fahrenheits so I can get one out faster.

At 75  :fire you will do 132 dmg. Your Weapon will deal 19 dmg. This means you will need to have a fully powered Fahrenheit out for 4 (worst case scenario 5 if the shield blocks 3 dmg) turns before you can kill them when they have no healing.
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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg263350#msg263350
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2011, 05:09:22 am »
I don't have much experience with or knowledge about Half-Bloods, but how often do you run into reflecting shields?

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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg263357#msg263357
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2011, 05:29:12 am »
not very often, and when I do they usually replace them with an other quick
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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg263382#msg263382
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2011, 05:56:39 am »
Here is a 2003 Excel file to help with that calculation:

http://www.4shared.com/dir/NaD10nDC/sharing.html

I've looked into a non-upped Fire Stall and never thought about  :fire:entropy!  I don't have a use for grinding HBs, but I would say this is a nice non-upped Fire Stall for PvP.  I'm going to start playing around with this for PvP:

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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg263404#msg263404
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2011, 07:08:00 am »
I really dig Fire and Entropy....Ill have to try this out. Still waiting on finding a Life oriented HB killer.

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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg263489#msg263489
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 01:06:31 pm »
Here is a 2003 Excel file to help with that calculation:

http://www.4shared.com/dir/NaD10nDC/sharing.html

I've looked into a non-upped Fire Stall and never thought about  :fire:entropy!  I don't have a use for grinding HBs, but I would say this is a nice non-upped Fire Stall for PvP.  I'm going to start playing around with this for PvP:

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I think this is the ONLY  :fire :entropy bolt deck I have ever seen. I was surprised at how well it actually works. On the flip side, I wanted this deck to be as newb friendly as possible. Thats why there are no Fahrenheits. Most Newbs wont have more than 1, if they even have that. This is meant for getting the newbs to start grinding HB's  asap since I see so little love to them. The Calculations arent even necessary. I think thats my favorite part of this deck. just know that once you get to 113 :fire, use all 6 bolts and you win. Its not any more complicated than that
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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg263735#msg263735
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2011, 11:53:37 pm »
You need 166 quanta to deal 200 damage with 4 fire bolts.

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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg263807#msg263807
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2011, 01:32:58 am »
Maybe I just fail, but I lost the first ten games I tried with this. Either I drew all my amethyst pillars early and he played more damage than I could reverse with antimatter before I could kill him with firebolt, or I drew all my fire pillars early and couldn't pay for an antimatter at all to stall long enough until I did get the quanta.

Maybe I just got bad matchups, or I just suck with the deck, but I'm not having much luck with this at all, and I doubt the noobs who this is meant for could play it better than I can. If you could provide stats for this to prove me wrong, it would be great.
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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg263856#msg263856
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2011, 02:35:55 am »
Ill start stat tracking starting tonight. Also, any suggestions for improving it are welcome.
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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg264126#msg264126
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 02:41:20 pm »
Published an alternate build. It still technically has the exact same quanta production, it just spreads to the entropy sooner. Its actually probably superior in every way.
-4 amythest
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Equals 4 and 4 for each, but allows you to get the entropy sooner.
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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg265007#msg265007
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2011, 10:02:34 pm »
The pendulum build is significantly better. I've only played ~50 games with each build, but early antimatters are life savers.

I'm also considering adding a Luciferine as card 31, though I have Fahrenheit in that place right now. Usually, the only thing keeping me from EMing is a weapon, and those rarely hit for more than 10 damage. It would really depend on how much a seventh card sitting in your hand would hurt, but it might be worth a try.

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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg265055#msg265055
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2011, 11:24:50 pm »
Having much better success with the pendulum variant, but with entropy pends instead of fire pends. Can't believe I didn't tests it like that before, it's how I do the quanta for many of my own decks.
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