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3rd Trials - Phase 4 - Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20565.msg261169#msg261169
« on: January 31, 2011, 09:53:06 am »
Phase 4 - Final Battle

1. Ban cards   Time's up!
- Each player bans 6 cards
- Banned cards can not be of the player's element (ie, I cannot ban Light cards)
- Both unupped and upped version of the card will be banned using that one ban
- Opponent cannot use any of these banned cards in any of his/her decks
- You can use the cards that you banned but you cannot use the cards your opponent banned
- People are allow to ban new/changed cards, with a backup in case  they aren't released by the time Final Battles start.

Contentants have 5 days to come up with a list of 6 cards that they want to ban. They should PM their card list to xdude*. If a contestant does not PM the list, no cards are banned and their opponent can use all the cards. After those 5 days, banned cards lists will be made public. Contestants will then have another 5 days to build their decks for the Final Battle that will last 7 days.

*xdude and Ryan666 shall PM their bans to QuantumT

2. Prepare decks   Time's up!
"Banned Cards" are card banned by the person in question, meaning his/her opponent cannot use them. To see which cards you cannot use, simply look at the "Banned Cards" of your opponent. Please don't confuse this list with the one next to your name. No banned cards listed means the player in question did not ban any cards.

Deckbuilding rules:
- any amount of cards
- maximum amount of upgraded cards is the number of points a player scored during phases 1-3
- at least half of the cards in your deck has to be from the element in question
- any mark
- no Cards Banned by your opponent in segment 1

3. Fight!   
The Final Battle is "best-of-nine" meaning that the player who gets 5 wins first, wins the battle.
If a Master wins, he or she retains the title. If a challenger wins, he or she becomes the new Master.

Players are to contact their opponents using PM's and find a duel time that is suitable for both players. Keep in mind that best-of-nine might take a long time, so you might need up to 2 hours to finish all the matches.

Players are highly encouraged to post the starting time of their duel on this topic at least 24 hours before it happens so that community members will have a chance to observe the battle. Please post the time in GMT.

Contestants have 7 days to finish Final Battle. However I strongly advice that you try to make them happen as soon as possible to avoid a situation where you run out of time.

After the battle, please post match reports in the Trial Battle Results topic. Thank you.

Good luck to everyone !

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Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
pikachufan2164
17
:fire Deflagration | Explosion
:fire Immolation | Cremation
:darkness Steal | Improved Steal
:darkness Devourer | Pest
:entropy Nova | Supernova
:entropy Discord | Discord
Higurashi
26
Devourer
Deflagration
Steal
Charger
Fire Bolt
Titan
AIR
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Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
QuantumT
25
Deflag
Steal
Dimensional Shield
Reverse Time
Earthquake
Discord
Hyroen
20
Butterfly Effect
Chaos Seed
Reflective Shield
Emerald Shield
Steal
Deflagration
DARKNESS
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Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
Kael Hate
23
Holy Light
Nova
Poison
Enchant Artifact
Earthquake
Deflagaration
Theonlyrealbeef
26
:entropy Discord;
:entropy Antimatter;
:light Holy Light;
:rainbow Shard of Gratitude;
:aether Fractal;
:entropy Nova
DEATH
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Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
MrBlonde
23
SoG
Explosion
Steal
Fractal
EQ
Discord
Thatnewguy
23
Rain of fire
Eclipse
Chargers
Fractal
Purify
Earthquake
EARTH
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Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
Terroking
18
Anti-matter
Earthquake
Pest
Phase Shields
Immolation
Shard of Gratitude
Kakerlake
22
Discord
Poison
Miracle
Deflagration
Graboid
Gravity Shield
ENTROPY
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Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
Zeru
27
Quicksand
Black Hole
Graboid
Shard of Gratitude
Poison
Explosion
Amilir
18
Shard of Gratitude
Black Hole
Earthquake
Deflagration
Steal
Purify
FIRE
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Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
kevkev60614
31
SoG
immo
dimshield
bonewall
nova
EQ
Napalm Grenade
24
Fire Bolt | Fire Lance
Bonewall | Bonewall
Earthquake | Quicksand
Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield
Steal | Improved Steal
Shard | Shard of Gratitude
GRAVITY
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Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
girlsgeneration
23
:entropy Discord
:earth Earthquake | Quicksand
:aether Lightning Bolt | Thunderbolt
:time Reverse Time | Rewind
:darkness Devourer | Pest
:air Flying Weapon | Animate Weapon / Mitosis
majofa
25
:aether Fractal
:air Flying Weapon
:death Poison
:earth Earthquake
:entropy Discord
:life Adrenaline
LIFE
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Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
killsdazombies
10
hope
RoF
SoG
Ice shield
Diamond shield
dimsheild - aether
Wizelsnarf
21
1. Nova
2. Discord
3. Fractal
4. Shard of Gratitude
5. Explosion
6. Stea
LIGHT
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Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
xdude
28
Permafrost Shield
Phase Shield
Quicksand
Gravity Shield
Improved Antimatter
Fractal
Ryan666
21
Permafrost Shield
Phase Shield
Shard of Gratitude
Gravity Shield
Improved Antimatter
Fractal
TIME
 :time
Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
Xinef
9
SoG
Discord
Graboid
Deflagration
Steal
Phase Shield
SpikeSpiegel
23
1) Deflagration/Explosion
2) Steal/Improved Steal
3) Earthquake/Quicksand
4) Butterfly Effect/(Upped) Butterlfy Effect
5) Dimensional Shield/Phase Shield
6) Purify/(Upped) Purify
WATER
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Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
RavingRabbid
24
Shockwave / Shockwave.  :air
Miracle / Improved Miracle.  :light
Dimensional Shield / Phase Shield.  :aether
Discord / Discord.  :entropy
Poison / Deadly Poison. :death
Deflagration / Explosion. :fire
nilsieboy
21
1.wings
2.miracle
3.phase shield
4.steal
5.deflagration
6.nova
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Re: 3rd Trials - Phase 4 - Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20565.msg261174#msg261174
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 10:31:40 am »
It seems to me that the majority of Masters have fewer bonus cards than their challengers. This probably means that the rewards for the Masters' tournament are too low. In general a Master should usually have an advantage over a challenger ... becoming a Master should be based on overcoming difficult odds. Just a note for next time.

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Re: 3rd Trials - Phase 4 - Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20565.msg261179#msg261179
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 10:41:20 am »
It seems to me that the majority of Masters have fewer bonus cards than their challengers. This probably means that the rewards for the Masters' tournament are too low. In general a Master should usually have an advantage over a challenger ... becoming a Master should be based on overcoming difficult odds. Just a note for next time.
We already did that :P. Problem is, all challengers in finals have won their Phase 2. If we were to increase Masters' Tourney rewards to an average of 10, we'd have to give the winners like 20 points, way too much. Phase 2 (and 1, while at that) might need a slight reworking.
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Re: 3rd Trials - Phase 4 - Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20565.msg261181#msg261181
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 10:52:13 am »
Many of the masters that came out behind came out that way because they didn't put full effort into the trials. When you look at the masters got all the points they could you have:

Master Ahead

Zeru +9
kevkev +7
xdude +7

Tied

MrBlonde vs. Thatnewguy

Challenger Ahead

Theonlyrealbeef +3
Majofa +2

So the masters aren't doing too bad.

That said, I'd like a slight boost to the masters' points so that the war bonus can be given back to challengers.

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Re: 3rd Trials - Phase 4 - Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20565.msg261316#msg261316
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 05:34:19 pm »
the war bonus might fix that, i'd say that the master who played as general'd gain a bigger war bonus then the challengers of course :)
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Re: 3rd Trials - Phase 4 - Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20565.msg261337#msg261337
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 05:57:28 pm »
War bonus should be given to all challengers that were in the top teams, regardless of the element they chosen to take the title. Amilir deserves his share of cards just as much as I do and yet he is left with a ridiculous disadvantage.

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Re: 3rd Trials - Phase 4 - Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20565.msg261416#msg261416
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2011, 07:45:30 pm »
Deckbuilding rules:
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- maximum amount of upgraded cards is the number of points a player scored during phases 1-3
- at least half of the cards in your deck has to be from the element in question
- any mark
- no Cards Banned by your opponent in segment 1


So Shards are allowed? Does that mean we can ban them?

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Re: 3rd Trials - Phase 4 - Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20565.msg261445#msg261445
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2011, 08:17:18 pm »
Deckbuilding rules:
- any amount of cards
- maximum amount of upgraded cards is the number of points a player scored during phases 1-3
- at least half of the cards in your deck has to be from the element in question
- any mark
- no Cards Banned by your opponent in segment 1


So Shards are allowed? Does that mean we can ban them?
Yes, shards allowed. Ideally you would ban them though.


EDIT :

majofa and I agreed on not using SoG and both of us didn't ban it. Other players should consult their opponents and try this strategy. Good call, majofa.
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Re: 3rd Trials - Phase 4 - Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20565.msg261771#msg261771
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2011, 06:14:15 am »
Deckbuilding rules:
- any amount of cards
- maximum amount of upgraded cards is the number of points a player scored during phases 1-3
- at least half of the cards in your deck has to be from the element in question
- any mark
- no Cards Banned by your opponent in segment 1


So Shards are allowed? Does that mean we can ban them?
Yes, shards allowed. Ideally you would ban them though.


EDIT :

majofa and I agreed on not using SoG and both of us didn't ban it. Other players should consult their opponents and try this strategy. Good call, majofa.
So, you're basically using 7 bans?
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Re: 3rd Trials - Phase 4 - Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20565.msg261774#msg261774
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2011, 06:19:38 am »
Deckbuilding rules:
- any amount of cards
- maximum amount of upgraded cards is the number of points a player scored during phases 1-3
- at least half of the cards in your deck has to be from the element in question
- any mark
- no Cards Banned by your opponent in segment 1


So Shards are allowed? Does that mean we can ban them?
Yes, shards allowed. Ideally you would ban them though.


EDIT :

majofa and I agreed on not using SoG and both of us didn't ban it. Other players should consult their opponents and try this strategy. Good call, majofa.
So, you're basically using 7 bans?
Yes.

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Re: 3rd Trials - Phase 4 - Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20565.msg261776#msg261776
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2011, 06:25:09 am »
Deckbuilding rules:
- any amount of cards
- maximum amount of upgraded cards is the number of points a player scored during phases 1-3
- at least half of the cards in your deck has to be from the element in question
- any mark
- no Cards Banned by your opponent in segment 1


So Shards are allowed? Does that mean we can ban them?
Yes, shards allowed. Ideally you would ban them though.


EDIT :

majofa and I agreed on not using SoG and both of us didn't ban it. Other players should consult their opponents and try this strategy. Good call, majofa.
So, you're basically using 7 bans?
Yes.
Oh well. I by no means can stop you or anything... but I find this rather stupid and random (why 7? why not 2? Or 41?)
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Re: 3rd Trials - Phase 4 - Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20565.msg261830#msg261830
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2011, 08:33:06 am »
Oh well. I by no means can stop you or anything... but I find this rather stupid and random (why 7? why not 2? Or 41?)
Because 41*2 =/= 346

 

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