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[SERIES] Void - A New Pseudo-Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21514.msg275240#msg275240
« on: February 21, 2011, 07:10:26 am »


Void as a new element has been suggested by many people, myself included. However, implementing a new element would bring a multitude of problems, and thus many of these Void suggestions have been brutally shot down. To circumvent the difficulties of suggesting a new element, I have created a series of Other cards that share one mechanic, one that successfully represents the nature of Void without bringing in any of the technical and balancing problems of creating a new element.

The main idea behind the Void pseudo-element is that there is no such thing as "Void quanta". Instead, whenever "Void quanta" is "spent", your opponent gains quanta of his or her Mark. To counterbalance this, Void Pillars destroy your opponent's quanta. You can put Void Pillars in a normal deck for quanta denial, and you can put other Void cards in a normal deck with the risk of giving your opponent free quanta. Or, you can run a Mono-Void deck that is balanced.

Cards currently in the Void series:

Void Pillar | Void Tower (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21409.0.html)

Void Pendulum | Void Pendulum (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21443.0.html)

Voidwalker | Voidstalker (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21456.0.html)

Void Distillate | Void Essence (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21458.0.html)

Clear Nymph | Void Nymph (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21512.0.html)

Void Portal | Void Gate (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21562.0.html)

Null Fracture | Null Rift (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21563.0.html)

Little Bang | Big Bang (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21504.0.html)

Oblivion | Oblivion (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23532.0.html)

Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23533.0.html)

Phantom of Ignorance | Specter of Apathy (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23534.0.html)

Nothingness | Nothingness (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23563.0.html)

Nullify | Annihilate (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23566.0.html)

Debilitate | Enervate (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23619.0.html)

Crystal of Inversion | Crystal of Inversion (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23903.0.html)
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Re: [SERIES] Void - A New Pseudo-Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21514.msg275243#msg275243
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2011, 07:26:35 am »
This series is a good idea that has been long in the making.

Current Theory about Void quanta.
(2/7) + (8.5/7) [Elemental Quanta] = [Void Quanta]
(4/14) + (17/14) [Elemental Quanta] = [Void Quanta]
(7/8.5) [Void quanta] - (2/8.5) = [Elemental Quanta]
(14/17) [Void quanta] - (4/17) = [Elemental Quanta]
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Elemental QuantaVoid QuantaAfter Rounding
11.5002
22.7143
33.9284
45.1425
56.3576
67.5718
78.7859
810.0010
911.2111
Void QuantaElemental QuantaAfter Rounding
10.5881
21.4111
32.2352
43.0583
53.8824
64.7055
75.5296
86.3526
97.1767
108.0008
118.8239
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Re: [SERIES] Void - A New Pseudo-Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21514.msg277338#msg277338
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 11:33:25 pm »
I like this "element" very much.
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Re: [SERIES] Void - A New Pseudo-Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21514.msg287506#msg287506
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 11:53:05 am »
Problem with this is that if you get like 40 Void pillars and 6 RoL and have like 2 Light Dragons its basically game over... The Void might be OP...

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Re: [SERIES] Void - A New Pseudo-Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21514.msg287867#msg287867
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 11:48:37 pm »
aww... not hiatus. i'm looking forward to the return, though.
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Re: [SERIES] Void - A New Pseudo-Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21514.msg287879#msg287879
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2011, 12:03:51 am »
Problem with this is that if you get like 40 Void pillars and 6 RoL and have like 2 Light Dragons its basically game over... The Void might be OP...
Void Pillars only destroy quantum of the opponent's mark.


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Re: [SERIES] Void - A New Pseudo-Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21514.msg287888#msg287888
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2011, 12:20:42 am »
how DO you make void quanta? void pillars destroy quanta from other's quanta pool matching his mark? and if there is void, there must also be a contrary (like :light and :darkness). what would be the supposed opposing element...if THIS one ever sees day.
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Re: [SERIES] Void - A New Pseudo-Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21514.msg287918#msg287918
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2011, 12:51:24 am »
how DO you make void quanta? void pillars destroy quanta from other's quanta pool matching his mark? and if there is void, there must also be a contrary (like :light and :darkness). what would be the supposed opposing element...if THIS one ever sees day.
There is no such thing as Void quanta. Instead, the cards are played at the risk of giving the opposing player quanta.
Void is its own counter element. As Bloodshadow had stated, if you use a card that has the Void mechanic, it gives the opponent quanta. Void pillars destroy quanta.
And also, this would me placed in Other, as Bloodshadow also stated, so there is no need for an opposing element.

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Re: [SERIES] Void - A New Pseudo-Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21514.msg287919#msg287919
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2011, 12:52:38 am »
how DO you make void quanta? void pillars destroy quanta from other's quanta pool matching his mark? and if there is void, there must also be a contrary (like :light and :darkness). what would be the supposed opposing element...if THIS one ever sees day.
Void is its own counter element. As Bloodshadow had stated, if you use a card that has the Void mechanic, it gives the opponent quanta. Void pillars destroy quanta.
And also, this would me placed in Other, as Bloodshadow also stated, so there is no need for an opposing element.
meh, good enough. void counters itself. its legit
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Re: [SERIES] Void - A New Pseudo-Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21514.msg299828#msg299828
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2011, 03:22:26 am »
Bump.

I've decided to jump-start this series. Since it already has more than 6 cards, it can now be moved to the series page.
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Re: [SERIES] Void - A New Pseudo-Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21514.msg299831#msg299831
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2011, 03:29:28 am »
very interesting card mechanics, awesome idea, keep the cards coming!  :P

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Re: [SERIES] Void - A New Pseudo-Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21514.msg299843#msg299843
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2011, 03:50:34 am »
i dont understand the purpose of the voidstalker, but everything else seems awesome
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