Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon

[Bloodshadow]

NAME: Void Dragon ELEMENT: Other COST: 14 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0|1 TEXT: Each turn, reduce your opponent's max HP by 7 and yours by 4. Immaterial.	NAME: Elite Void Dragon ELEMENT: Other COST: 16 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0|1 TEXT: Each turn, reduce your opponent's max HP by 8 and yours by 4. Immaterial.

ART: Bird man , modified by Bloodshadow IDEA: Bloodshadow NOTES: The "" symbol does NOT denote a new element. Instead, that symbol means that when the card is played, your opponent gains that amount of quanta matching his or her Mark. I am using this symbol because there isn't enough space to put all this text in the card description. This card is a part of my Void series. Using Void cards give your opponent quanta, while Void Pillars take those quanta away. Both the Pillars and other Void cards can be put into normal decks, or they can be used together in a Mono-Void deck. Nepycros once suggested that Void decks should play cards using no quanta, and win dealing no damage. Thus I give you Void Dragon, a card that looks pathetically weak but is completely untouchable and unstoppable. However, it is so powerful that it drains all existence around it, including yours. The ability is active. It deals no damage, but reduces your opponent's max HP per turn. You cannot affect this creature in any way, not even with shields since it has no ATK; the ability is completely unstoppable. The immaterial status is also there to prevent Fractal abuse. SERIES: Void (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21514.0.html)

[Sevs]

I love the idea of reducing the max HP

[The_GrimReaper]

Seeing this card as a standalone, it should be fine.
However, with Phantom of Ignorance, Voidstalker and potential other Void cards, it could become a problem. If you got 3 different cards of that kind, you can already fill 18 spaces in your deck. Add sundials to browse through it faster and prevent attacks (The Phantom and the Dragon don't have to attack, right?) and you've got an extremely strong deck.
In general I think Void cards with high costs could become an issue, because they give you great advantages while the enemy can't make use of all the quanta, given he doesn't use a firebolt deck or has lots of hourglasses.
Nonetheless, I think the idea is great.

[Seiya]

I see a slight problem.  High cost Void cards don't really do much for a cost.  It seems like you'd just be giving them more quanta than they can use in exchange for a 7 attack creature with immaterial and momentum.  I'm not a fan of this card.

[Rutarete]

Sorry, BS, i'm sort of against this one. 6 of these on the field is -42|-48 to max hp per turn. Add pretty much anything in combo with this, and i'd call it OP. It has no counter, so would this really be balanced in the game?

[ratcharmer]

I'm afraid I'm with Rutarete on this.

6 of these in your starting hand is a 3-turn kill even if you do nothing the entire rest of the game. Add to that they're immune to shields (0 attack), immune to cc (immaterial) and healing doesn't help (reduce max hp) and I honestly can't think of anything that could even feasibly beat a void rush deck. 

[ZephyrPhantom]

Technically this is a free immaterial creature with Momentum.  Even if you give your opponent quantum he won't be able to counter quickly enough in most cases and can't even get rid of the dragons.

IMHO, it should get a bit more HP (maybe +2) and not have immaterial.

[agentflare]

Well, if it wasn't immaterial, it'd be Fractalled and then BOOM! 1HKO. imho, It needs a special clause: Can't be targeted by Fractal. Immaterial would make it immortal.

[ZephyrPhantom]

Well, if it wasn't immaterial, it'd be Fractalled and then BOOM! 1HKO. imho, It needs a special clause: Can't be targeted by Fractal. Immaterial would make it immortal.

Generally I think we want to avoid this sort of thing.

Why not make it similar to Void Walker by giving it negative attack and having the damage inflicted be based on attacK? That makes it weak to buffs and antimatter.

[Bloodshadow]

I changed it. Now this card reduces your own max HP as well.

[Rutarete]

I changed it. Now this card reduces your own max HP as well.

Now THAT i like much better. It'll fir in much better now

[Bloodshadow]

I have created art for this thing. Yes, that's supposed to be a dragon. Void creatures are meant to look alien to our existence. It's totally not because of my artistic inability and lack of imagination or anything.