Does anyone have a strong argument against God?

[BluePriest]

just remembered something i thought about a while back:
what if god was evil and satan was good, but god (being the more powerful at this time) claims to be good just to get more followers, ultimately gaining more strength? that would mean that all of those satanists who think evil is the way to go are actually doing good a favor, and all of the devout christians are evil .
monkey wrenches are fun

lol unit.
God defines good. Whatever is perfectly good, that is God (and vice versa).
Your argument is similar to asking "what if the ground is actually the sky?"

and who's word do you have to go by? someone who talked to god? what if god just said everything he says to do is good and it will earn them in a wonderful place, but lied the entire time? what im saying is religion is pretty much just the telephone game. the "he said she said" thing. i wouldnt believe it the first time i heard it ;P

Its more than a telephone game if you have an omnipotent God making sure his word gets out there corectly.

So if god said that premeditated murder was good, it would be?

Yes, however, God never changes.

[YoungSot]

just remembered something i thought about a while back:
what if god was evil and satan was good, but god (being the more powerful at this time) claims to be good just to get more followers, ultimately gaining more strength? that would mean that all of those satanists who think evil is the way to go are actually doing good a favor, and all of the devout christians are evil .
monkey wrenches are fun

lol unit.
God defines good. Whatever is perfectly good, that is God (and vice versa).
Your argument is similar to asking "what if the ground is actually the sky?"

and who's word do you have to go by? someone who talked to god? what if god just said everything he says to do is good and it will earn them in a wonderful place, but lied the entire time? what im saying is religion is pretty much just the telephone game. the "he said she said" thing. i wouldnt believe it the first time i heard it ;P

The word God generally refers to the highest moral authority. He is simply defined as good.

If you are asking "what if God defines good differently than what the Christian faith believes?" then that's another thought entirely.

[tyranim]

just remembered something i thought about a while back:
what if god was evil and satan was good, but god (being the more powerful at this time) claims to be good just to get more followers, ultimately gaining more strength? that would mean that all of those satanists who think evil is the way to go are actually doing good a favor, and all of the devout christians are evil .
monkey wrenches are fun

lol unit.
God defines good. Whatever is perfectly good, that is God (and vice versa).
Your argument is similar to asking "what if the ground is actually the sky?"

and who's word do you have to go by? someone who talked to god? what if god just said everything he says to do is good and it will earn them in a wonderful place, but lied the entire time? what im saying is religion is pretty much just the telephone game. the "he said she said" thing. i wouldnt believe it the first time i heard it ;P

Its more than a telephone game if you have an omnipotent God making sure his word gets out there corectly.

So if god said that premeditated murder was good, it would be?

Yes, however, God never changes.

there is my point ! he decides what is said and what is not. therefor, he can make people think he is the good one ;P
p.s. entropy DOES have me  ??? (imagine the smily is smiling rather than frowning)

[OldTrees]

God is a word describing a Deity. Good is not a necessary characteristic to belong to that category.
See Set or Chronos.

Most worshiped deities are described as Good but that is not a necessary characteristic to belong to that category.

[BluePriest]

there is my point ! he decides what is said and what is not. therefor, he can make people think he is the good one ;P
p.s. entropy DOES have me  ??? (imagine the smily is smiling rather than frowning)

But he obviously allows people to say what they want about him. You arent struck down with lightning are you?

We can ultimately say anything if we want to get conspiratory enough, however, on that same note, whats stopping God from striking every last living human down with lightning?

[YoungSot]

God is a word describing a Deity. Good is not a necessary characteristic to belong to that category.
See Set or Chronos.

Most worshiped deities are described as Good but that is not a necessary characteristic to belong to that category.

But I'm answering a question posed regarding the Christian God.

[OldTrees]

God is a word describing a Deity. Good is not a necessary characteristic to belong to that category.
See Set or Chronos.

Most worshiped deities are described as Good but that is not a necessary characteristic to belong to that category.

But I'm answering a question posed regarding the Christian God.

Neither the thread nor the question assumes that the Christian perspective on God is correct. In fact the question assumes that the Christian perspective was wrong.

[agentflare]

Well one argument I take for being atheist/agnostic is the question:
Do we worship (the Christian) God for being right or do we worship him because he holds the keys to heaven?

If God decreed murder was good and murder pleased him, would we do it even though it wasn't morally sound to us? Thus it seems that if your morals disagree with God's you will go to hell. But, since we don't know what pleases some sort of ultimate purpose, we each create what is moral to us, so we can recieve some sort of ultimate reward.

To quote George Carlin:
"God loves you. If you don't do what he says, he'll let you burn in hell for eternity. Yup. He loves each and every one of you."

[BluePriest]

God is a word describing a Deity. Good is not a necessary characteristic to belong to that category.
See Set or Chronos.

Most worshiped deities are described as Good but that is not a necessary characteristic to belong to that category.

But I'm answering a question posed regarding the Christian God.

Neither the thread nor the question assumes that the Christian perspective on God is correct. In fact the question assumes that the Christian perspective was wrong.

often times when God is capitalized it is using it as a specific god. Does anyone have any strong arguments against gods, or even just god little g would make it seem more general, however, as the g is capitalized, and the topic maker is a christian, I dont see it wrong to assume that the god being talked about is God.

[OldTrees]

God is a word describing a Deity. Good is not a necessary characteristic to belong to that category.
See Set or Chronos.

Most worshiped deities are described as Good but that is not a necessary characteristic to belong to that category.

But I'm answering a question posed regarding the Christian God.

Neither the thread nor the question assumes that the Christian perspective on God is correct. In fact the question assumes that the Christian perspective was wrong.

often times when God is capitalized it is using it as a specific god. Does anyone have any strong arguments against gods, or even just god little g would make it seem more general, however, as the g is capitalized, and the topic maker is a christian, I dont see it wrong to assume that the god being talked about is God.

I think the Poll, the OP referring to being Theist not Christian and the specific question being asked about an alternate perspective on the bible would make assuming the normal interpretation Christian interpretation of God as the only possibility wrong.

[BluePriest]

God is a word describing a Deity. Good is not a necessary characteristic to belong to that category.
See Set or Chronos.

Most worshiped deities are described as Good but that is not a necessary characteristic to belong to that category.

But I'm answering a question posed regarding the Christian God.

Neither the thread nor the question assumes that the Christian perspective on God is correct. In fact the question assumes that the Christian perspective was wrong.

often times when God is capitalized it is using it as a specific god. Does anyone have any strong arguments against gods, or even just god little g would make it seem more general, however, as the g is capitalized, and the topic maker is a christian, I dont see it wrong to assume that the god being talked about is God.

I think the Poll, the OP referring to being Theist not Christian and the specific question being asked about an alternate perspective on the bible would make assuming the normal interpretation Christian interpretation of God as the only possibility wrong.

Eh all a matte of perspective I suppose. If I made this and one of my friends saw it, they would think I was referring to the christian God. So its all perspective.

[QuantumT]

I generally take 'God' to mean a monotheistic god, which encompasses Judaism and Islam as well as Christianity. However I don't take it to exclusively relate to that god, just any monotheistic god.