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Re: EmeraldTiger's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26257.msg334725#msg334725
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2011, 03:01:40 pm »
how high of attack power can 1 :fire give?
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Re: EmeraldTiger's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26257.msg334751#msg334751
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2011, 04:14:11 pm »
Quote from: EmeraldTiger on May 16, 2011, 03:01:40 pm
how high of attack power can 1 :fire give?
+3 if it is one use per turn.
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Re: EmeraldTiger's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26257.msg334811#msg334811
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2011, 05:45:39 pm »
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Name: Cinderling
Element: Darkness
Cost: 2 :darkness
Type: Creature
Atk|HP: 3|5
Ability:  :fire Ember: This creature gains +3|+0 until end of turn.
 Name: Cinderling
Element: Darkness
Cost: 2 :darkness
Type: Creature
Atk|HP: 5|5
Ability: :fire Ember: This creature gains +3|+0 until end of turn.
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Re: EmeraldTiger's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26257.msg334939#msg334939
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2011, 09:07:15 pm »
That looks workable. I did not expect this to be a duo creature. +0quanta skills are nigh impossible to balance solo on duo creatures.
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Re: EmeraldTiger's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26257.msg334987#msg334987
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2011, 09:45:39 pm »
has anyone been able to do it before?
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Re: EmeraldTiger's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26257.msg334993#msg334993
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2011, 09:49:27 pm »
Quote from: EmeraldTiger on May 16, 2011, 09:45:39 pm
has anyone been able to do it before?
None have been tried. The problem is that it permits the card to be used as a vanilla creature that is cheaper than a regular vanilla counterpart. I guess the best way to explain it is that one should never design a card where the total skill value (including activation cost modifiers) is negative.
So add a +1 skill value passive please.
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Re: EmeraldTiger's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26257.msg334997#msg334997
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2011, 09:54:36 pm »
Is this a niche we should explore?

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Quote from: EmeraldTiger on May 16, 2011, 09:45:39 pm
has anyone been able to do it before?
None have been tried. The problem is that it permits the card to be used as a vanilla creature that is cheaper than a regular vanilla counterpart. I guess the best way to explain it is that one should never design a card where the total skill value (including activation cost modifiers) is negative.
So add a +1 skill value passive please.
Add a passive? I can't think of anything that will fit in this package ATM.
Zblader is good at this....summons Zblader.
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Re: EmeraldTiger's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26257.msg335030#msg335030
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2011, 10:31:10 pm »
Maybe call the ability ignite; So a passive could be like steam machine; losing one attack per turn, like cinders dying out. I'm not really sure that it warrants +1 cost, but just my 2 :electrum
cinderlings -> cinders -> sparks -> ability giving attack -> ignite
Or, maybe, when igniting, the flame creates another embercinder thing; fire spreads; this could work for a passive
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Re: EmeraldTiger's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26257.msg335047#msg335047
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2011, 11:12:57 pm »
how about a passive that differs depending on element that targets it?
 :water = soot
 :fire = new Cinderling
 :air becomes fire spirit or explodes
 :earth ?
 :life Cinder Dragon
 :time kindling (Permanent)
 :aether ?
 :darkness Charcoal (Permanent)
 :death ?
 :entropy any of the others
 :light ?
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Re: EmeraldTiger's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26257.msg335049#msg335049
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2011, 11:16:39 pm »
Quote from: EmeraldTiger on May 16, 2011, 11:12:57 pm
how about a passive that differs depending on element that targets it?
 :water = soot
 :fire = new Cinderling
 :air becomes fire spirit or explodes
 :earth ?
 :life Cinder Dragon
 :time kindling (Permanent)
 :aether ?
 :darkness Charcoal (Permanent)
 :death ?
 :entropy any of the others
 :light ?
Generally a ability that has that wide a variable effect has been gotten shot down before (Vrt made a somewhat harsh comment on my Rune Sword  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23980.0.html) involving a similar variable ability, I avoided including the harsher part in the thread.).
IMHO, such an ability needs to be well explained or it may be viewed as overcomplicated.
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Re: EmeraldTiger's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26257.msg335051#msg335051
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2011, 11:21:56 pm »
What kind of passive would fit this creature?
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Re: EmeraldTiger's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26257.msg335074#msg335074
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2011, 12:16:58 am »
How about "Blazing - Gets + 1 | + 0  for one turn when it takes damage." ?
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