Beat the Highscore! [PvP Event Submission]

[Marsu]

Beat the Highscore!Original idea by: Marsu   |   Developed by: Marsu   |   Art by: ---   |   Organized by: yet to decide


In this challenge, challengers don't directly mess their skills with each other. Instead, each challenger plays one out of 10 decks that was already built before. These 10 decks are all built around a certain theme and are rather innovative and fun to play against. Whoever wins against most of these decks without losing a BO3 once, wins the challenge.

What is special about this challenge?

Each deck has a theme. Challengers will be able to see each decks name - which gives strong hints about the decks theme and thus the cards used. Challengers are allowed to create a deck that counters the cards they think that deck will contain! Thus this challenge is
a) an interpretative one - what cards could that name stand for?
b) a deckbuilding one - how can those cards be countered?
c) a PvP challenge - obviously.

Isn't it boring if quite a lot of challengers will be able to beat all 10 decks?

Yes. This is why there's an additional rule. Each game after the first one, 2 or 4 (see below) more cards of the challenged decks will be upgraded. The challenger isn't allowed to play a single upgraded card.

How strong will those decks be?

In their fully unupgraded form, the decks will be on about AI3 level, or slightly above.


1. HOW TO SIGN UP?
Anyone with a forum and a chat account can sign up for this event. Start by reading the rules very carefully. Then sign up by posting on a separate sign up topic. If you cannot find a sign up topic, or if it is locked, this event is not currently active, and you will have to wait for it to restart.

There is no maximum amount of participants in this event.

2. GETTING READY

Choose a deck you want to play against. Build any deck, ideally one that you think counters the cards that you think this deck will use. Then PM the organizer with the name of the deck you want to play against.


3. Exact rules

-Upgraded cards are banned. (for challengers)
-Shards are banned.
(I changed this due to my experience regarding this event in the Duels section - Shards are allowed there and sometimes make it a bit too easy (and also boring, as decks keep repeating themselves more often))
-The first deck the challenger faces is fully unupgraded.
-If a challenger wins 2-0, the next deck he faces will have 2 upgraded cards more than the previous one.
-If a challenger wins 2-1, the next deck he faces will have 4 upgraded cards more than the previous one.
-You may not change your deck in a BO3.
-You may (and should) change your deck after each BO3.


4. DUELS[/color]
It's a good idea to either record the matches, or take screenshots as proof, in case something weird, like a desync error, happens. Remember, a player who gets caught cheating, will be permanently banned from all Elements community PvP events, so please play fair.
5. AFTER DUELS
Winner should post a new topic in the "Battle Results" section, along with short description of how the match went.
6. WINNER

The challenger to win against most decks wins this challenge. If there's a tie, the challenger who won his or her last game with the better stats wins. If this is a tie again, the challenger who won his or her game before the last game with the better stats wins, and so on.

7. REWARDS
The winner of the event will receive the following forum award icon: Yet to create.

8. ADDITIONAL NOTES
When trying to realize this competition, a few problems occur, none of which I personally find big enough not to realize this.
a) We need (a) neutral player(s) to play the 10 decks. This might be a bit of work for those people, and their neutrality has to be ensured. Of course, I'd be willing to play as many matches as I can myself.
b) This competition is about countering. As different players face the same deck at - probably? - a different time, abuse is possible. However, I'm quite sure this won't happen in this community. It could also be prevented by forcing the challengers to all play deck x as their first match, deck y as their second, and so on.
c) It wouldn't be too fun if more than one player managed to beat all 10 decks and the winner had to be decided about the rather unimportant exact stats of the played matches. This problem could be easily solved with simply building more than 10 decks.
d) I hosted this in the "duels" section already. Check following link to have an idea how this works. Feel free to ask the participating challengers how they liked it.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,46450.0.html
(Of course, all decks in the event would be new decks, not those 10 of the duel-thread.)

9. FAQ
This is my first submission and there are probably quite a few things unclear. Feel free to ask anything.

[Fippe94]

I have tried this challenge in Marsu's duel topic. It was really interesting and fun. Some decks are easier to guess than others what they contain, so it's not always easy to build a counter of course. I would prefer if you can choose the order you face the deck, since I that was part of the fun when I tried. You'd want to face the "hard" decks first since then they will have little upgrades, and save the "easy" ones till later. I would defenitely join this if it becam an event!

[Zarathustra1883]

I am currently still in the original challenge with Marsu and so far I think this is really fun for all the reasons Fippe named. If this event would come to life I would consider to volunteer to build 10 themed decks.

[Marsu]

To clarify: Building the decks isn't a problem, I'm done with about 50% already. Playing the decks against the challengers in the actual event is where maybe more than one person would be of great help.

[Pepitoss]

I played one match in Marsu's challenge and it was really fun , the concept is nice and original. But i think that if it is to become a pvp event and a lot of players play in it 15 decks would be better. I know it's a lot of work but like that even if you win 2-0 each match , the last deck is fully upgraded.Because i think that if there is a lot of participants , more then one will reach 10 wins.

[Atom_heart]

I played the "challenge edition" of this and I really liked it, even though I was beaten by the first deck. I found the idea very original and the deck I faced was very well built IMHO.
While I'm not entirely convinced that it fits perfectly in the PVP event category, I back it up (even if only to try it once more ).
Good job Marsu!

[treebeard xiii]

This truly is a fun challenge i also participated in the duel edition but only managed to beat one deck as has already been said this may not be event stndard but would back for that one more attempt and would happily volunteer to be someone to play against after my attempt ofc

[Marsu]

I'd like to remind everyone who may be still a bit sceptical about this, that you can simply try the challenge (with different decks) in a relaxed atmosphere in the duels section.

[Kakerlake]

The Challenge posted in the duells section by Marsu was really amazing. Even though the first few decks are quite easy to beat, it gets much more challenging as the upgrades come together.

As for the event, I'd suggest a few changes, as it is now, I see a few problems:
 - There isn't enough focus on PvP. Not facing the other participants of an event kind'a spoils the fun.
 - As you mentioned, premade decks are a problem. Even if 99% of the folks were playing fair, that 1% can spoil the fun for all.

Possible way to fix this:
 - Instead of premade decks, make premade themes (plenty of them).
 - Each theme will have a set of restricions, which will be used to build decks (anything goes: cards, decksize, upp modifier, counter restrictions, elements restrictions are a few ideas).
 - When signing up, players will build 10 (or so) decks of chosen themes (can't pick the same theme more than once)
 - After the signup phase, chosen themes will be public, the decks themselves will stay hidden.
 - There will be 2 phases each round: Deckbuilding and Duelling.
 - Deckbuilding phase: Each of the paired up players will pick a theme from the opponent and build a deck to counter it. This deck will be sent in to the organizer.
 - Duelling phase: the players will play 2 times BO3, once for each Theme/Counter. Both players write decks + match outcome (and maybe a summary) down somewhere.
 - A picked theme from a player will be removed from his list of themes.
 - Winning (playing a counter): 2-0 (2-1), your next opponent's themedeck has +2 (+4) ups more
 - Winning (playing a theme deck): 2-0 (2-1), your counter deck recieves +2 (+1) more ups.
 - Players will be matched up swiss style, no one shall face the same opponent twice.
 - If a match doesn't happen, it's treated as a 2-0 (playing counter) and 2-1 (playing theme) for the more active, or a loss for both.
 - Special note: When a player gets upps, s/he may only upgrade one card for each upp, no other changes allowed. (example, when using Titan'apult, using 5 FW and Mark of Air, the player may upgrade the FW's, but not change the mark to Gravity!)

Guess that should about cover it.

[Jen-i]

The original rules as posted are a very creative idea but more properly fit into the Duel section - the variation however presented by Kaker takes this to a whole other level of engagement.

I'd make one small change - instead of your opponent choosing your theme allow the each player to choose their own theme - then if they win with the theme have it removed from their list - the winner of the event is then the first player to have won with each of their themes.

[Odii Odsen]

I really like this idea. I already played against Marsu in his duels thread and it was a lot of fun.
I would join this event!

[treebeard xiii]

i have to say kaker the way you turned it into an event was beautiful i for one would almost definately play in that event