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How to get 2 lobos in less than 2 hrs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43124.msg537372#msg537372
« on: August 29, 2012, 10:55:17 pm »
"I cannot get the Lobotomizers for my first Rol/Hope deck!"
I think this is among the no.1 new players problems. I hear this every day.
Actually, farming lobos nowdays is easier than anytime before, provided you know what you're doing. If you have 2, you can start a Rol/Hope with slightly reduced winning percentages vs. some gods, but if you have a littlie more patience, you can easily get 3 with this method.
I started a new account to see how hard it is to get those lobos. It took me less than 2 hrs. Here it is, step by step.

1, Get this deck:
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Deck import code : [Select]
5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up 5up 5up 5us 5us 8pt


See other tutorials for how to get this basic deck fast. At the beginning, choose darkness and work your way up from the starter deck.
2, Do the 500 score quest. Choose a Lobo. There you go, only one to go!
3, Click AI3 and fight none other than the mono aether deck. If you see anything other than the aether mark, then quit to the menu and retry immediately.
4, Win. It is pretty easy, I never lost a single match:
- Devourers: skyrocket your quanta for dragons and drain lifes. Be careful tho, if you drain the AIs quanta below 6 and it has more offense than you, then it will never play a dimshield for you to steal!
- Dragons: the damage in your deck. Don't expect much mileage off your first few ones though; If they don't die immediately, you're lucky. The 3-4 rd will usually stick.
- Steal: For dimshields only! Never steal a lobo or mindgate unless your hand is chock full of steals (at least 4).  This will not only enable your dragons to hit, but also slows down the enemy offense.
- Drain live: To finish the job (max damage per drain life is 16) or to kill dragons if the AI PUs them and you are not too much ahead.
5, Spin all. Hold your breath and cross your fingers.

Every once in a while, when you get low on money, play other AI3s as well. Especially look out for the pharaoh elder (it has time mark), since it is easy to beat and you have great chance to win pharaohs (big money)
Sell every card you win. Yes, even the rares. This is not a "how to win rares guide", but a superfast way to rolhope land. You'll have plenty of chances later to win your rares back.

That's it. I finished the session of mine with 175 games (bulk of it "lost"), a pretty negative score and 2 lobos.

+1 get 9k coins, up those photons and enjoy.

Good luck!
Acs

PS: another good place to farm lobos is the bronze arena. The method is the same (anything but aether mark->quit), but you lose 20 instead of 10 each time. however, MA is pretty frequent there.

note: I humbly request this to be placed in the tutorials subforum.

« Last Edit: August 29, 2012, 11:00:43 pm by Acsabi44 »
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Re: How to get 2 lobos in less than 2 hrs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43124.msg537378#msg537378
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2012, 11:00:51 pm »
Don't like how the first thing new players instantly hear is "YOU SHOULD GET ROL/HOPE AND GET SOME LOBOS" instead of "enjoy the game and learn about all these wonderful cards and strategies".

Also, your strategy is basically just quit against every elder but the :aether one? You lose money way too quickly, and the chances of winning a lobo are what, 1%?

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Re: How to get 2 lobos in less than 2 hrs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43124.msg537379#msg537379
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2012, 11:03:48 pm »
Don't like how the first thing new players instantly hear is "YOU SHOULD GET ROL/HOPE AND GET SOME LOBOS" instead of "enjoy the game and learn about all these wonderful cards and strategies".
me neither, but I hear this complaint every day.

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Also, your strategy is basically just quit against every elder but the :aether one? You lose money way too quickly, and the chances of winning a lobo are what, 1%?
I feel it is around 5%(both with this account and with my main), but maybe I'm lucky. Yes you loose  money pretty fast but this is not about getting money.
I got a few rares out of the other elders which I sold for big money. Maybe It was pure luck
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Re: How to get 2 lobos in less than 2 hrs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43124.msg537382#msg537382
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2012, 11:05:53 pm »
I am not digging the whole idea, but then again, Liquid Antimatter (when it was viable) did the same thing on FGs.
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Re: How to get 2 lobos in less than 2 hrs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43124.msg537389#msg537389
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2012, 11:28:54 pm »
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Also, your strategy is basically just quit against every elder but the :aether one? You lose money way too quickly, and the chances of winning a lobo are what, 1%?
I feel it is around 5%(both with this account and with my main), but maybe I'm lucky. Yes you loose  money pretty fast but this is not about getting money.
I got a few rares out of the other elders which I sold for big money. Maybe It was pure luck

AI3 droprate tests show:
2.358 Lobotomizers in 100.000 games makes 2,36% chance to win one per game against aether. Chance to get the aether one is 1/13.
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Re: How to get 2 lobos in less than 2 hrs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43124.msg537419#msg537419
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 12:43:58 am »
Is this related to this?
 
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,43114.0.html

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Re: How to get 2 lobos in less than 2 hrs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43124.msg537440#msg537440
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 01:49:18 am »
What I'm doing (which I believe will yield more profit in the future) is using my current RoL/Hope (with that missing Lobo replaced with an Aether Pendulum that I don't want to waste money on and upgrade) to build the Wrecking Ball for Bronze Arena, so that I can win my third Lobo and some other cool rares along the way. I personally think it's better than murdering score with monodarkness.
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Re: How to get 2 lobos in less than 2 hrs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43124.msg537532#msg537532
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 07:32:46 am »
Is this related to this?
 
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,43114.0.html

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Not, not related in a single way  ;)
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Re: How to get 2 lobos in less than 2 hrs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43124.msg537560#msg537560
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2012, 02:35:21 pm »
What I'm doing (which I believe will yield more profit in the future) is using my current RoL/Hope (with that missing Lobo replaced with an Aether Pendulum that I don't want to waste money on and upgrade) to build the Wrecking Ball for Bronze Arena, so that I can win my third Lobo and some other cool rares along the way. I personally think it's better than murdering score with monodarkness.
Not to mention electrum and the huge amount of electrum it costs to get darkness decks(for new players).

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Re: How to get 2 lobos in less than 2 hrs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43124.msg537632#msg537632
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2012, 09:42:39 pm »
What I'm doing (which I believe will yield more profit in the future) is using my current RoL/Hope (with that missing Lobo replaced with an Aether Pendulum that I don't want to waste money on and upgrade) to build the Wrecking Ball for Bronze Arena, so that I can win my third Lobo and some other cool rares along the way. I personally think it's better than murdering score with monodarkness.
Not to mention electrum and the huge amount of electrum it costs to get darkness decks(for new players).
Took me a whooping 6 games (plus the quest rewards plus the oracle spin) to get this deck from the darkness starter. (LVL0, LVL1, LVL2, LVL3-loss, LVL3, LVL3)
As I said, it is easy if you know what you're doing.
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Re: How to get 2 lobos in less than 2 hrs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43124.msg537642#msg537642
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2012, 11:29:57 pm »
That is from the starter. Noobs aren't always totally new lol. Some are in their 30th game now and still haven't gotten 500score. (yes, it is true)

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Re: How to get 2 lobos in less than 2 hrs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43124.msg537645#msg537645
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 12:08:05 am »
Some are in their 30th game now and still haven't gotten 500score. (yes, it is true)
It takes more than 30 games to get 500 score, especially if you've only played that many games and don't know what to farm, etc.

I'd rather slowly build a deck that works very well over a long time (perhaps with some PVP grinding with some deck to get the RoLs).
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