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[Acsabi44]

I did this with my alt once. I specifically created that alt to test "newb-stuff" like this (and getting 3 lobos for RoL, for example).
IMO the quickest route is pick a lobo-> build a monodark grinder-> grind AI3-> up 6 RoLs-> grind FG.
Took me several days, with maybe 3-4 hrs of grind everyday.

What I wanna test is wether grinding silver is a faster income of the first 9k than AI3.

[eaglgenes101]

I'd say death rush => silver farmer => limitless speed

[kev]

Does anyone think a fully upped FG grinder is attainable in... say... two days?

[furballdn]

Does anyone think a fully upped FG grinder is attainable in... say... two days?

Depends on how long you spend. If you spend 48 hours grinding, definitely. If you only spend 2 hours in those 2 days, that's impossible.

[ddevans96]

I'd argue that even playing consistently for all 48 hours, it's probably impossible.

[deuce22]

if you grind farms on pvp2, it's possible

[storyteller]

Ive been on this account over a year. I set out to make Instosis. It took me about a month to upgrade fully. I already had the shards. Luck has a lot to do with things. I have earned thousands in a day or so, and other times lost money consistently each week to bad luck. Sometimes things go your way, others they dont. I personally think the grind is a bit long.

[justaburd]

I think it depends on exactly how you define the rules.
As noted before, it would depend on playtime as well as farm availability.
Does anyone remember the 16 win 0 loss 3 upgrade alt I made a while back?
Didn't take long at all to make it, maybe 2-3 hours? And that was with the stipulation that it didn't lose a match.

[Elbirn]

How exactly does one acquire 3 upgraded cards and a 100% winrate with only 16 games played? Whatever dark majick you worked there, that could be key to helping newbs that are just starting their grind

[Naesala]

How exactly does one acquire 3 upgraded cards and a 100% winrate with only 16 games played? Whatever dark majick you worked there, that could be key to helping newbs that are just starting their grind

Large donations to zanz are always a fast way~

[Onizuka]

10am-2pm, got the electrum required for unupgraded rol/hope easy with that dev otk deck. Still would need 2 more lobos.

Being rareless is about its only plus over other unupgraded grinders

[kev]

Epilogue:
I decided to put it to the test and find out how time intensive it really is to start from scratch and get a fully upped FG grinder.  Once you have a fully upped FG grinder, I reasoned, it'd be relatively easy to grind up electrum and upped decks.  I think a lot of vets would point to having a fully upped FG grinder as sort of a coming of age.

Here was my plan:
Day 1: Start up an alt and change it to a mono-death AI3 grinder ASAP.  Grind until I have enough electrum to buy The Essential Halfblood Farmer and then grind until I can afford my RoL/Hope with 6 upped RoLs.  (Note: after grinding AI4 with Essential I can say it's definitely more efficient than the standard advice to grind AI3 for 9k electrum.  Slower games and lower winrates, but winning an upped card is worth 1150 and it happens more often than I'd thought.)
Day 2: If I didn't find a 2nd lobo against AI3 and AI4 yesterday, find 1-2 in bronze.
Day 3: Use my mostly unupped RoL/Hope to grind FGs, upping itself in the process.

Here's how it worked out:
Day 1: I created an account at ~9am on a weekday and by ~4pm I had a RoL/Hope with 6 upped RoLs and one lobo.  Yay.
Day 2: Where all the lobos at?  I grinded bronze a good chunk of the day and never found one.
Day 3: Until I found more lobos, there's really no point in grinding FGs.  My winrate would be worse, but more importantly I set out to get a fully upped RoL/Hope and that includes the lobos.  Here's how it would work out, in theory:

• I'd need to win about 30 cards (sell value of ~1150 each enough to up ~24 cards I need)
• I'd win about 0.5 upped cards per FG I beat, so I'd need to beat about 60 FGs.
• Starting unupped, a winrate of ~30% is prolly an okay assumption.  That means I'd need to play about 200 games.

Conclusion:
I'm told Limitless Speed (an FG grinder utilizing 0 rares) has a good winrate.  If that's true, I'm pretty confident getting a fully upped FG grinder on a brand new account could be done in less than 24 hours.  That's the advice I'd give new players.

The real problem facing new players is that many of the community's tried-and-true decks use rares.  And finding the rares you need, with one exception, is 100% due to circumstance.  Kami recently asked what kinds of quests and rewards zanz should add, and I think this post answers the question.  Grinding for electrum isn't tough if you have the rares.