Elements Mafia 52 - by eljoemo

[Dm]

May I ask what the need for another day is if Dm is dying tonight?
And about Dm, I think he just did what he thought about earlier: Not taking this serious and just doing anything. But well, there might be some deeper sense I am missing.

I'm not sure if you read this or if you just don't have the capacity to.

[ddevans96]

I'm going to recap what I said in chat just now.

The vote isn't going to swing much today, so either sky or Dm is going to be lynched, almost certainly. If Dm is lynched, he's either mafia, which is self-explanatory, or he's civilian, which looks extremely bad for sky and her informant. If we lynch sky, no matter what, she doesn't get a chance for that extra day. The only way she gets a meaningful extra day if if both her and Dm live...which won't happen. So her asking for an extra day is just a stalling tactic.

I'm of the opinion that this, while not suspicious in its own right, doesn't look good too with the rest of her actions. I don't necessarily think she's mafia, but at best, she's marginally useful to town, with a strong amount of information behind her. So that's why my vote is staying with her.

[Ginyu]

I did, Dm, and it didn't contain stuff to keep sky alive today.
If you wanna kill yourself so badly, just withdraw.

[Dm]

Killing myself or killing Sky are both equally prestigious, I've already gone over it.
I never asked to keep Sky alive today.

I'd suggest you re-read.

[Ginyu]

The vote on yourself doesn't mean you rather wanna kill yourself than sky?

[Dm]

Yes; but this is my sole preference within the tactic we have.

I gave you all the options, and, again, I will not ask you to follow one or the other. I am not a town leader; I am merely sharing information and facts. You are to do with them what you wish. I believe that if I die, you all will lose entire credibility on Sky and Linkcat, and proceed to lynch them both; further on, you all will be 100% sure the QWMT does what I say it does. This is what is in my mind best for town. Because even if you all lynch Sky or someone else, there is always the chance that Sky is just a downright shit town or that mafia might try to repeatedly convince you all QWMT doesn't do that, or you all will doubt QWMT, and I will always, always, until the end of this game, be doubted as a possible mafia, which hampers my gameplay greatly.

[Linkcat]

So here's where it gets really strange. Sky told me to vote on Dm on odd days (because "something requires it" - which I assumed meant Equipment). Linkcat told me that Sky told HIM to vote on you, but keep you alive.

...and now Sky says Dm is mafia and he *should* die. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is true. Sky was trying to get votes on Dm without lynching him. This is why I attempted to save Dm at the end of the day yesterday. This situation is mostly unrelated to the one we're in now.

And it is awesome to give the Agent's name around. It is not like someone could be mafia or what.

It was not as simple as sky telling me who the Agent was.


Here is our updated situation. We have two players (me and sky) claiming that an Agent told us he found Dm as mafia. There are two possible scenarios that aren't extremely unlikely.

1. We are lying and me and sky are both mafia.
Outing ourselves here would be beyond stupid. If this is true, congratulations, you got two mafia.

2. We are telling the truth, and one of the Agent or Dm is mafia.
We lynch Dm. If he's not mafia, we lynch the fake Agent. We are guaranteed a mafia. Lynching sky leaves it unclear who the mafia is. Me and/or sky still have a chance to be mafia, but not more than anyone else.

[Dm]

2. We are telling the truth, and one of the Agent or Dm is mafia.
We lynch Dm. If he's not mafia, we lynch the fake Agent. We are guaranteed a mafia. Lynching sky leaves it unclear who the mafia is. Me and/or sky still have a chance to be mafia, but not more than anyone else.

I REFUSE to allow this.

Sky has been much scummier than any third party. If you all lynch me, I URGE ALL OF YOU to lynch Sky IMMEDIATELY. And then whoever she says gave her info after, and Link the day after.

[Linkcat]

Either way, lynching sky today is bad. Please consider your votes carefully.

[Dm]

So; a reminder

1. I am right
2. Y'all dun' goofed
3. Force Sky to tell the name of the "agent"
4.Lynch Sky first.
5.Lynch Agent second.

[mathman101]

Dm (7) - skyironsword, JonathanCrazyJ, killsdazombies, Linkcat, Dm, Espithel, dawn to dusk
kirbylover314 (2) -  flyingcat, worldwideweb3
skyironsword ( 8 ) - Kuroaitou, rob77dp, kirbylover314, RavingRabbid, Ginyu, MeowMeowCat, ddevans96, mathman101
UTAlan (1) - UTAlan

Not sure if there is still time, but if so I'm changing my vote

[mathman101]

EBWOP: I derped I misunderstood dms last post.

Dm ( 8 ) - skyironsword, JonathanCrazyJ, killsdazombies, Linkcat, Dm, Espithel, dawn to dusk, mathman101
kirbylover314 (2) -  flyingcat, worldwideweb3
skyironsword ( 7 ) - Kuroaitou, rob77dp, kirbylover314, RavingRabbid, Ginyu, MeowMeowCat, ddevans96
UTAlan (1) - UTAlan