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[14:57:14] ‹killsdazombies› Link's day one would earn him a lynch in any other game
[14:57:20] ‹killsdazombies› lets be real
[14:57:31] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies› Please explain.
[14:57:38] ‹killsdazombies› It was 300% scummy
[14:57:48] ‹killsdazombies› It happened though, so it's over
[14:57:52] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies› How?
[14:58:10] ‹killsdazombies› The whole situation was scummy, the day extension, the lynch change
[14:58:26] ‹killsdazombies› It was all awful, maybe not all your fault, but youre the front for it
[14:58:36] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies› Again, how? You can't just call me mafia and not back it up at all.
[14:58:44] ‹killsdazombies› Im not calling you mafia*
[14:58:49] ‹killsdazombies› let me be sure to say that
[14:58:56] ‹rob77dp› kdz - it was 'awful', to me, in a non-mafia vs. townie sort of way
[14:59:09] ‹Linkcat› Sorry. You can't just say I played scummy and not back it up at all.
[14:59:13] ‹rob77dp› it was more awful in gameplay / principle nothing in it really said "town" or "mafia" to me
[14:59:15] ‹rob77dp› (about Link)
[14:59:23] ‹MeowMeowCat› ‹@rob77dp› It was acting AGAINST, his side, unless he is Mafia
[14:59:34] ‹Linkcat› ‹@MeowMeowCat› How?
[14:59:37] ‹killsdazombies› You changed your vote at the last minute after demanding an extension
[14:59:40] ‹killsdazombies› that screams scum
[14:59:55] ‹rob77dp› Lc did not _know_ coffee was town prior to official final end of D1
[14:59:57] ‹killsdazombies› I get it was to save your own skin, but that doesnt make it better
[14:59:59] ‹rob77dp› unless he is mafia
[15:00:03] ‹Dm› It doesn't scream scum.
[15:00:05] ‹Dm› You're not confirmed mafia.
[15:00:09] ‹Dm› You're just a giant asshole.
[15:00:11] ‹Dm› All there is to it.
[15:00:16] ‹rob77dp› hence, THAT is the only "scumtell" I can even possibly see about the D1 ending
[15:00:21] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies› Seriously, me being mafia or town wouldn't have affected my play there.
[15:00:29] ‹killsdazombies› I know it wouldnt link
[15:00:31] ‹ddevans96› kills: He asked for an extension because eljoe ended the day 10 minutes early
[15:00:40] ‹killsdazombies› ^ I know dd
[15:00:49] ‹Linkcat› Then how can you say it screams scum?
[15:00:50] ‹killsdazombies› the whole situation was bad
[15:01:40] ‹Linkcat› You're generalizing again. Please explain why you think I played scummy.
[15:02:48] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies›
[15:03:25] ‹killsdazombies› You threw someone who voted with you under the bus to save yourself
[15:04:01] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies› Yes. Why would that make me more likely to be mafia?
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[15:07:06] ‹Linkcat› ‹@MeowMeowCat› You didn't answer my question.
[15:07:16] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies› or you
[15:08:45] ‹killsdazombies› Because you killed a town to save yourself. Thats literally it. You caused a town death with a last minute vote change. Even if it doesnt mean youre mafia. Youre playing against the town
[15:09:43] ‹ddevans96› kills: The counterpoint to that is link, assuming he's civilian, was going to die anyways - so he only caused a town death that was already going to happen
[15:09:51] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies› There was no way for me to know that Coffee was town. What I did was save a confirmed (to myself) town.
[15:10:23] ‹ddevans96› That's not playing against the town, it's a net zero. Maybe even a positive because link is probably the better player
[15:12:09] ‹killsdazombies› I disagree dd, but I don't really see a point to continued discussion. It won't change my opinion, nor yours
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(talking with Dm)
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[15:25:47] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies› You still have been completely unable to back up your opinion.
[15:26:12] ‹killsdazombies› I've said it like 10 times linkcat
[15:27:49] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies› No, your reasons have been countered with logic. You have not made an argument.
[15:29:15] ‹killsdazombies› You threw a town under the bus after that town voted with you to save yourself, you are playing exclusively for yourself, even if you aren't mafia, youre a gigantic ass.
[15:31:32] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies› I was playing exclusively for myself because I was the only person I knew was town. It's really that simple.
[15:31:51] ‹killsdazombies› ‹@Linkcat› K
[15:32:53] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies› I'm not sure what you mean by that?
[15:33:10] ‹killsdazombies› ‹@Linkcat› k
[15:34:12] ‹Linkcat› ‹@killsdazombies› I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or stopping the conversation.
[15:34:33] ‹Dm› ‹@Linkcat› "K" is usually short for "I don't give a fuck, I don't want to argue with you"
[15:34:42] ‹killsdazombies› ‹@Linkcat› The latter
[15:34:46] ‹Linkcat› I know, I just wanted to make sure.
[15:34:50] ‹Linkcat› Okay.
[14:59:23] ‹MeowMeowCat› ‹@rob77dp› It was acting AGAINST, his side, unless he is Mafia
[15:52:30] ‹MeowMeowCat› ‹@Linkcat› What did I say
[15:52:47] ‹Linkcat› [14:59:23] ‹MeowMeowCat› ‹@rob77dp› It was acting AGAINST, his side, unless he is Mafia
[15:52:59] ‹MeowMeowCat› sec
[15:53:09] ‹Linkcat› Wow, that was almost an hour ago.
[15:55:30] ‹ddevans96› But...it wasn't against his side
[15:55:41] ‹Linkcat› ‹@MeowMeowCat› I was asking you to explain why you think I was working against my side.
[15:55:58] ‹ddevans96› If he's town, he is the only person he knows is town, so he replaced a townie lynch (him) with another (Coffee)
[15:56:05] ‹MeowMeowCat› ‹@Linkcat› You chose to lynch a civvy instead of dying yourself, assuming you're a civvy, then that would be working against yourself, no?
[15:56:13] ‹MeowMeowCat› ‹@ddevans96› I guess that's true
[15:56:23] ‹ddevans96› That's not a net loss for town. It's a net zero, ignoring the fact that link is the better player
[15:56:27] ‹Linkcat› I had absolutely no way of knowing if Coffee was mafia or civvy.
[15:56:48] ‹ddevans96› If he's mafia, it's self-explanatory as you implied
[15:56:54] ‹Linkcat› So I was actively helping or pretending to be helping town.
[15:57:01] ‹JonathanCrazyJ› ‹@MeowMeowCat› no, he chose to not lynch himself, knowing (hopefully) that he is town. Coffee could have been mafia (5/19 chance)
[15:57:39] ‹MeowMeowCat› yeah, I see that now
