Few farms lately?

[darksamurai]

I've started grinding top50 for some rares and I'm finding that there are very few farms lately, grinding t50s is not good at all anymore, too few rares, few gold, less winds (specially less EMs since less farms)...

How come people doesn't share their rares at the time? I can only find life/poison/v2 speed/dark rush decks, rol/hope, rainbow-rushes :/.

And the few farms I find have correct quanta towers so they actually win you in a game even with a rush deck if your draw is not good enought. For example some people with arctic squids/pharaoh, or a lot of rare weapons and animate weapons.

For example, Rastafla right now seems to let us farm Arsenics and Miracles, but he has death and life quantas so he's playing the arsenics and the ton of miracles ingame, making it an enemy that is using 4-6 miracles per game and a ton of arsenics too, not hard but kinda boring.. if you let yourself be farmed, why do you make it hard?

[jmdt]

I've started grinding top50 for some rares and I'm finding that there are very few farms lately, grinding t50s is not good at all anymore, too few rares, few gold, less winds (specially less EMs since less farms)...

How come people doesn't share their rares at the time? I can only find life/poison/v2 speed/dark rush decks, rol/hope, rainbow-rushes :/.

And the few farms I find have correct quanta towers so they actually win you in a game even with a rush deck if your draw is not good enought. For example some people with arctic squids/pharaoh, or a lot of rare weapons and animate weapons.

Who said T50 was supposed to be easy and give away free rares?

[darksamurai]

I've started grinding top50 for some rares and I'm finding that there are very few farms lately, grinding t50s is not good at all anymore, too few rares, few gold, less winds (specially less EMs since less farms)...

How come people doesn't share their rares at the time? I can only find life/poison/v2 speed/dark rush decks, rol/hope, rainbow-rushes :/.

And the few farms I find have correct quanta towers so they actually win you in a game even with a rush deck if your draw is not good enought. For example some people with arctic squids/pharaoh, or a lot of rare weapons and animate weapons.

Who said T50 was supposed to be easy and give away free rares?

When it comes to the point that some t50s are harder than some fake gods, and theyre supposed to be 2 levels lower on AI difficulty, I think something is wrong.

[Wolfunit]

I've started grinding top50 for some rares and I'm finding that there are very few farms lately, grinding t50s is not good at all anymore, too few rares, few gold, less winds (specially less EMs since less farms)...

How come people doesn't share their rares at the time? I can only find life/poison/v2 speed/dark rush decks, rol/hope, rainbow-rushes :/.

And the few farms I find have correct quanta towers so they actually win you in a game even with a rush deck if your draw is not good enought. For example some people with arctic squids/pharaoh, or a lot of rare weapons and animate weapons.

For example, Rastafla right now seems to let us farm Arsenics and Miracles, but he has death and life quantas so he's playing the arsenics and the ton of miracles ingame, making it an enemy that is using 4-6 miracles per game and a ton of arsenics too, not hard but kinda boring.. if you let yourself be farmed, why do you make it hard?

Try Earning your rares like we did this isn't a give away free rare day.

[Higurashi]

They're not supposed to be anything, since T50 is highly variable. You can't set a real difficulty on them, which is why there is none. Going by the electrum/score gain, sure, it's between Elders and Half-Bloods, but that's only a trend that pertains to balance. Not necessarily difficulty. Personally, I was expecting amazing resistance when I first entered to fight the top goddamn players, but was let down. I love when it's more difficult, like it could, and therefore should, be.

Edit: As for why people making biting farms.. it's fun! Seriously. You'd understand if you were in the T50. Watching how people react to them and trying new ideas is one of the last fun things there is left from being in the T50. It's variety, both from farming on your own and making farms.

[Kurohami]

Ha, got to admire the first group of people who put up farms, they had no source to get their rares except the AIs.

[jmdt]

Ha, got to admire the first group of people who put up farms, they had no source to get their rares except the AIs.

I've heard stories that before farms, everyone was in awe of Revkilljoy's 3 eternity.

[MrBlonde]

if you let yourself be farmed, why do you make it hard?

Well technically if i play the game i don't let myself get farmed... kinda just happens. There are quite a few topics arguing whether rare farms should be biting. I agree that stalling farms are kind of lame (although i admit i do put up farms with SoG's, SoD's, or Miracles with weapons) but mainly just because it's tough to make fighting farms with only 2 types of rares.

[SnoWeb]

Edit: As for why people making biting farms.. it's fun! Seriously. You'd understand if you were in the T50. Watching how people react to them and trying new ideas is one of the last fun things there is left from being in the T50. It's variety, both from farming on your own and making farms.

I agree. I'm farming T50 lately. The biting farms are those I prefer. The reward is high but the game is challenging. I don't like to fight pillars (like a twisted Don Quichote).
I've no problem with hard non-farming decks either (life rush, adrenalined deja-vu, dune scorpio, etc...). It's giving teaching to how to build your deck later.
There is one deck, for example, I would like to see the code: a rainbow denial deck (from enddo I think) with quicksand, pests, fractal, discord and black hole. It is really nice.
Something I dislike strongly is having to fight 10 "rainbow slow stalling boring (and not even very difficult) decks" with no reward possible to be able to fight one of the above...

[darksamurai]

Maybe but you have to understand a thing.

When you are finding farms and you're not only fighting them, but fighting every t50 you find out, it can happen than, when you finally fight vs a farm, you get a very sucky draw, and he bites, and you lose and also lost the chance to farm him this time.

This sucks! That's the only reason why I do say this . I also like challenging decks on t50, and going over them sometimes, but for the few times I find farms It sucks when you lose due to very bad draws (EPIC bad draws I mean)

[TheoCT]

Read this thread that I created a while ago telling the rest of the t50 to not put up free rare farms:

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7413.msg88674#msg88674

Heres the original post:

As many of you know I'm against making farms to just GIVE cards away and a free 50 points. I farm t50 myself and I wish there weren't any freebies around. If you will be making a farm make it BITING. We shouldn't be giving away the rares and score but we should give them a better shot at winning the cards. Pretty much everybody just assumes we will give them farms but they all need to realize it's not a right but a privilege that some of the people in the t50 make farms to help other players. For example, pervepic's pharaoh/SoR deck is perfect, it's a difficult deck to play but if you win you have a high chance of winning an eternity/pharaoh/or SoR.

-TheoCT

[darksamurai]

Why should I?

I've opened this thread talking about the few farms found that day, at the next day it was ok so it sank.

But now you come here and tell me to read suggestions about making farms HARDER? I talk about making them easier and you post here about making them harder?

This is called TROLLING, the thread doesn't go about making them harder but easier.