Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32

[Blacksmith]

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Very nice thread!
I like the idea and that you add statics make this thread really worth reading. However I have some ideas.

The bronze decks is all upped. Most people grinding bronze grind un upped I suggest adding at least 1or 2 un upped and un rare decks.

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Now just some tips to some decks.
The Smarter Mono-Aether FG Grinder    A good deck but I would suggest adding 2sows instead of a dragon and a pend. YOu rather draw a Sow than a dragon.

Mono Air Rush by Ian   I suggest removing the weapons and the shields to add 3 fog shields and another sofree.

Chaos Wyrms Redone Since you don't need 6 wyrms to play 6 chaos seeds I suggest removing 1wyrm for a fog shield ,would really help in this deck.

The rol hope decks isn't really good I think.

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5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7kc 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pp

I use this one and I use to get around 40% win rate. I fyou don't have a nymph you can add another dragon or upped angel.

At last I miss a Fractal+Bal+Sop deck. Even if the winrate isn't as big as it used to be I still think it's at elast 35& in plat and higher in gold silver.

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Good suggestions!

For unupped Bronze grinder, I guess you must have missed the 'Spoiler for Bronze Archive' in OP where you can find some unupped ones.

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Brave Phoenix By Calindu, submitted by Mystik_
W:46 L:4  %: 92.00% TTW:6

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"I love Pharaoh" By Zeddino, submitted by Zarathustra1883
W:45 L:5  %: 90% TTW:8.73 EM:6/45 EM%: 13.33%

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The Wrecking Ball By Willng3, submitted by Jenkar, further testing by Eaglgenes101 and Cielo
W:159 L:19  %: 89.33% TTW:10.53 EM:9/96 EM%: 9.38%

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Unupped GravityBow By BunkeR, submitted by Bunker
W:43 L:7  %: 86.00% TTW:13

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Chaos Wyrms Redone By Dragonsdemesne, modified and submitted by WNxDarkmaster
W:47 L:8  %: 85.45%

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Fleshboids By Luminous, modified and submitted by Gandora
W:41 L:9  %: 82.00%

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Regen2k9's Unupped MonoDark By Regen2k9, submitted by VegeForsaken
W:41 L:12  %: 77.36%

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For the modifications, it's better to post your stats in details here.
Thank you!

Can you add stats for the decks please?

Very nice thread!
I like the idea and that you add statics make this thread really worth reading. However I have some ideas.

The bronze decks is all upped. Most people grinding bronze grind un upped I suggest adding at least 1or 2 un upped and un rare decks.
For example

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 55q 55q 590 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5lm 5og 5og 61q 61q 8pm

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 55v 55v 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5og 5og 61q 61q 8pm

Now just some tips to some decks.
The Smarter Mono-Aether FG Grinder    A good deck but I would suggest adding 2sows instead of a dragon and a pend. YOu rather draw a Sow than a dragon.

Mono Air Rush by Ian   I suggest removing the weapons and the shields to add 3 fog shields and another sofree.

Chaos Wyrms Redone Since you don't need 6 wyrms to play 6 chaos seeds I suggest removing 1wyrm for a fog shield ,would really help in this deck.

The rol hope decks isn't really good I think.

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5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7kc 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pp

I use this one and I use to get around 40% win rate. I fyou don't have a nymph you can add another dragon or upped angel.

At last I miss a Fractal+Bal+Sop deck. Even if the winrate isn't as big as it used to be I still think it's at elast 35& in plat and higher in gold silver.

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7gq 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 809 809 809 809 80d 80d 80d 80i 80i 80i 80i 80m 8pp

I'm sorry but I won't start grinding bronze again, but if I would guess they might have around 50% and the deck with rare cards a bit higher. And I don't think I*m gonna test every single upped grinder sorry. But I can promise you that there are improvments for most decks.

[Pella]

Do we have an accurate method for determining change in score?

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Match Style	Formula (score and electrum are same formula)
vs AI, 0~5	={base}+{adder}
vs Arena, B/S/G/P	={base}+{bonus}*0.5*(1+{HP}/100)
vs PVP, 1 & 2	={base}-35*({score}-{opp.score})/({score}+{opp.score})

Variable Cacluation...

Opp Type	base	adder	bonus
AI 0	1	0	---
AI 1	1	{HP}/25	---
AI 2	5	{HP}/20	---
AI 3	10	{HP}/10	---
AI 4	15	{HP}/4	---
AI 5	Score=65; =35	{HP}/4	---
Bronze	-5	---	~8 (check Arena reward)
Silver	-5	---	~70 (check Arena reward)
Gold	-5	---	~140 (check Arena reward)
Plat	-5	---	~198 (check Arena reward)
PVP 1	95	---	---
PVP 2	135	---	---

Let me know if this helps with your inquiry about score.    Also, if you'd like, I can post here or PM you my method for combining the various score and electrum formulas for multiple match types and levels into one big formula.  Let me know.

That is perfect!  I track the arena types separately, anyway, so I'll use the individual formulae.  Thanks!! +rep

[rob77dp]

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I keep track of cards won.

I didn't see anything in your post or formula that allows for rare cards.  An unupped rare will bring more than an unupped common, no?

I'll give these values, for lack of time, desire, and knowledge/ability to give "better" values. 

Average sell cost of all un-upped, non-Mark, non-Nymph cards (each card weighted equally - essentially, neglecting the fact that certain cards are won more or less... think pillars and cards not used in deck very often like Skeleton):  48.8

Average sell cost of all upped, non-mark, non-Nymph cards (same disclaimer as un-upped, above):  1176.5

I use more conservative values of 40 and 1100 in my spreadsheet formulas - conservative is in my nature (engineering).  Hope that helps you out! 

Do we have an accurate method for determining change in score? I know the FG Statmasta does, but the formula is hidden. I know that delta-score can be calculated using the electrum won, but that's all I know.

Of course, the low-tech way to determine delta-score is to record your score at the beginning and end of a testing session. Yesterday, I was bouncing between leagues, so the "record the score" method would be more tedious, but I can avoid that just by sticking with one league.

Tracking delta-score has never been important to me, really. My score goes up or down, and I find myself able to buy different things for my Arena decks, but tracking details really doesn't matter (and I can bee really anal about stats, so that's saying something). If y'all want me to track delta-score, I will.

Match Style	Formula (score and electrum are same formula)
vs AI, 0~5	={base}+{adder}
vs Arena, B/S/G/P	={base}+{bonus}*0.5*(1+{HP}/100)
vs PVP, 1 & 2	={base}-35*({score}-{opp.score})/({score}+{opp.score})

Variable Cacluation...

Opp Type	base	adder	bonus
AI 0	1	0	---
AI 1	1	{HP}/25	---
AI 2	5	{HP}/20	---
AI 3	10	{HP}/10	---
AI 4	15	{HP}/4	---
AI 5	Score=65; =35	{HP}/4	---
Bronze	-5	---	~8 (check Arena reward)
Silver	-5	---	~70 (check Arena reward)
Gold	-5	---	~140 (check Arena reward)
Plat	-5	---	~198 (check Arena reward)
PVP 1	95	---	---
PVP 2	135	---	---

Let me know if this helps with your inquiry about score.    Also, if you'd like, I can post here or PM you my method for combining the various score and electrum formulas for multiple match types and levels into one big formula.  Let me know.

I cannot resist posting my FoE (Formula of Everything) for score and electrum gain calculation... 

Gain/Loss = {base} + ({HP} / {divisor}) + {bonus} * (0.5 + {HP} / 200) - 35 * {factor}
... with variables as shown, below.

{HP} = your remaining HP, if victorious
x = your score at start of duel
y = opponent's score at start of duel
1x10^15 = infinity (for purposes of these formulas )

Match Type	Base	Score Base	Divisor	Bonus	Factor
AI 0	1	1	1x10^15	0	0
AI 1	1	1	25	0	0
AI 2	5	5	20	0	0
AI 3	10	10	10	0	0
AI 4	15	15	4	0	0
AI 5	35	65	4	0	0
Bronze	-5	-5	1x10^15	Bronze reward	0
Silver	-5	-5	1x10^15	Silver reward	0
Gold	-5	-5	1x10^15	Gold reward	0
Platinum	-5	-5	1x10^15	Platinum reward	0
PVP 1	95	95	1x10^15	0	(x - y) / (x + y)
PVP 2	135	135	1x10^15	0	(x - y) / (x + y)

*** Please note:  I have not accounted for EM bonus and "Top 10 Arena Deck" multipliers here.  It can be done, I just have not yet attempted to include them. ***

[Pella]

^^^ attention whore

[Blaze]

I can understand your want to not grind bronze, but would you please post stats for the plat decks you suggested? Thank you!

I've been grinding gold with poison dials and sometimes remembering to write down my stats. I'll try to stay more on top of that and will grind plat a bit too. I also have a Pestal deck so I'll stat with that as well

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Very nice thread!
I like the idea and that you add statics make this thread really worth reading. However I have some ideas.

The bronze decks is all upped. Most people grinding bronze grind un upped I suggest adding at least 1or 2 un upped and un rare decks.

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For example

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 55v 55v 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5og 5og 61q 61q 8pm

Now just some tips to some decks.
The Smarter Mono-Aether FG Grinder    A good deck but I would suggest adding 2sows instead of a dragon and a pend. YOu rather draw a Sow than a dragon.

Mono Air Rush by Ian   I suggest removing the weapons and the shields to add 3 fog shields and another sofree.

Chaos Wyrms Redone Since you don't need 6 wyrms to play 6 chaos seeds I suggest removing 1wyrm for a fog shield ,would really help in this deck.

The rol hope decks isn't really good I think.

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5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7kc 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pp

I use this one and I use to get around 40% win rate. I fyou don't have a nymph you can add another dragon or upped angel.

At last I miss a Fractal+Bal+Sop deck. Even if the winrate isn't as big as it used to be I still think it's at elast 35& in plat and higher in gold silver.

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Good suggestions!

For unupped Bronze grinder, I guess you must have missed the 'Spoiler for Bronze Archive' in OP where you can find some unupped ones.

Spoiler for Bronze Archive:

Brave Phoenix By Calindu, submitted by Mystik_
W:46 L:4  %: 92.00% TTW:6

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"I love Pharaoh" By Zeddino, submitted by Zarathustra1883
W:45 L:5  %: 90% TTW:8.73 EM:6/45 EM%: 13.33%

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The Wrecking Ball By Willng3, submitted by Jenkar, further testing by Eaglgenes101 and Cielo
W:159 L:19  %: 89.33% TTW:10.53 EM:9/96 EM%: 9.38%

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Unupped GravityBow By BunkeR, submitted by Bunker
W:43 L:7  %: 86.00% TTW:13

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Chaos Wyrms Redone By Dragonsdemesne, modified and submitted by WNxDarkmaster
W:47 L:8  %: 85.45%

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Fleshboids By Luminous, modified and submitted by Gandora
W:41 L:9  %: 82.00%

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Regen2k9's Unupped MonoDark By Regen2k9, submitted by VegeForsaken
W:41 L:12  %: 77.36%

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For the modifications, it's better to post your stats in details here.
Thank you!

Can you add stats for the decks please?

Very nice thread!
I like the idea and that you add statics make this thread really worth reading. However I have some ideas.

The bronze decks is all upped. Most people grinding bronze grind un upped I suggest adding at least 1or 2 un upped and un rare decks.
For example

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Now just some tips to some decks.
The Smarter Mono-Aether FG Grinder    A good deck but I would suggest adding 2sows instead of a dragon and a pend. YOu rather draw a Sow than a dragon.

Mono Air Rush by Ian   I suggest removing the weapons and the shields to add 3 fog shields and another sofree.

Chaos Wyrms Redone Since you don't need 6 wyrms to play 6 chaos seeds I suggest removing 1wyrm for a fog shield ,would really help in this deck.

The rol hope decks isn't really good I think.

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5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7kc 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pp

I use this one and I use to get around 40% win rate. I fyou don't have a nymph you can add another dragon or upped angel.

At last I miss a Fractal+Bal+Sop deck. Even if the winrate isn't as big as it used to be I still think it's at elast 35& in plat and higher in gold silver.

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I'm sorry but I won't start grinding bronze again, but if I would guess they might have around 50% and the deck with rare cards a bit higher. And I don't think I*m gonna test every single upped grinder sorry. But I can promise you that there are improvments for most decks.

[Pella]

I've been grinding gold with poison dials and sometimes remembering to write down my stats. I'll try to stay more on top of that

When I'm in "testing mode", I open a spreadsheet that helps me keep track of stats. At the end of each duel, I record the info in the spreadsheet, then move to the next duel. If I'm grinding just for fun, I don't bother with stats. For me, the mental separation of Testing v. Not helps make sure I
- get plenty of stats to report, and
- don't get burned out with keeping stats.

[Blaze]

I only keep track of wins/losses so it isn't that hard. I just keep tallies on a paper next to me, and need to remember to put them there =P

I've been grinding gold with poison dials and sometimes remembering to write down my stats. I'll try to stay more on top of that

When I'm in "testing mode", I open a spreadsheet that helps me keep track of stats. At the end of each duel, I record the info in the spreadsheet, then move to the next duel. If I'm grinding just for fun, I don't bother with stats. For me, the mental separation of Testing v. Not helps make sure I
- get plenty of stats to report, and
- don't get burned out with keeping stats.

[Blacksmith]

I can understand your want to not grind bronze, but would you please post stats for the plat decks you suggested? Thank you!

I've been grinding gold with poison dials and sometimes remembering to write down my stats. I'll try to stay more on top of that and will grind plat a bit too. I also have a Pestal deck so I'll stat with that as well

Spoiler for Hidden:

Very nice thread!
I like the idea and that you add statics make this thread really worth reading. However I have some ideas.



The bronze decks is all upped. Most people grinding bronze grind un upped I suggest adding at least 1or 2 un upped and un rare decks.

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For example

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 55v 55v 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5og 5og 61q 61q 8pm

Now just some tips to some decks.
The Smarter Mono-Aether FG Grinder    A good deck but I would suggest adding 2sows instead of a dragon and a pend. YOu rather draw a Sow than a dragon.

Mono Air Rush by Ian   I suggest removing the weapons and the shields to add 3 fog shields and another sofree.

Chaos Wyrms Redone Since you don't need 6 wyrms to play 6 chaos seeds I suggest removing 1wyrm for a fog shield ,would really help in this deck.

The rol hope decks isn't really good I think.

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5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7kc 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pp

I use this one and I use to get around 40% win rate. I fyou don't have a nymph you can add another dragon or upped angel.

At last I miss a Fractal+Bal+Sop deck. Even if the winrate isn't as big as it used to be I still think it's at elast 35& in plat and higher in gold silver.

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Good suggestions!

For unupped Bronze grinder, I guess you must have missed the 'Spoiler for Bronze Archive' in OP where you can find some unupped ones.

Spoiler for Bronze Archive:

Brave Phoenix By Calindu, submitted by Mystik_
W:46 L:4  %: 92.00% TTW:6

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"I love Pharaoh" By Zeddino, submitted by Zarathustra1883
W:45 L:5  %: 90% TTW:8.73 EM:6/45 EM%: 13.33%

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The Wrecking Ball By Willng3, submitted by Jenkar, further testing by Eaglgenes101 and Cielo
W:159 L:19  %: 89.33% TTW:10.53 EM:9/96 EM%: 9.38%

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Unupped GravityBow By BunkeR, submitted by Bunker
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Chaos Wyrms Redone By Dragonsdemesne, modified and submitted by WNxDarkmaster
W:47 L:8  %: 85.45%

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Fleshboids By Luminous, modified and submitted by Gandora
W:41 L:9  %: 82.00%

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Regen2k9's Unupped MonoDark By Regen2k9, submitted by VegeForsaken
W:41 L:12  %: 77.36%

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For the modifications, it's better to post your stats in details here.
Thank you!

Can you add stats for the decks please?

Very nice thread!
I like the idea and that you add statics make this thread really worth reading. However I have some ideas.

The bronze decks is all upped. Most people grinding bronze grind un upped I suggest adding at least 1or 2 un upped and un rare decks.
For example

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Now just some tips to some decks.
The Smarter Mono-Aether FG Grinder    A good deck but I would suggest adding 2sows instead of a dragon and a pend. YOu rather draw a Sow than a dragon.

Mono Air Rush by Ian   I suggest removing the weapons and the shields to add 3 fog shields and another sofree.

Chaos Wyrms Redone Since you don't need 6 wyrms to play 6 chaos seeds I suggest removing 1wyrm for a fog shield ,would really help in this deck.

The rol hope decks isn't really good I think.

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5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7kc 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pp

I use this one and I use to get around 40% win rate. I fyou don't have a nymph you can add another dragon or upped angel.

At last I miss a Fractal+Bal+Sop deck. Even if the winrate isn't as big as it used to be I still think it's at elast 35& in plat and higher in gold silver.

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7gq 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 809 809 809 809 80d 80d 80d 80i 80i 80i 80i 80m 8pp

I'm sorry but I won't start grinding bronze again, but if I would guess they might have around 50% and the deck with rare cards a bit higher. And I don't think I*m gonna test every single upped grinder sorry. But I can promise you that there are improvments for most decks.

Said and done. With the role hope I got
6 wins 14 losses after 20 games gives 30% win rate so lower than I expected but then I meet 6 decks where I could have use for reflect shield so if I had played it my win rate could have been around 40%

With the bal deck believe it or not I got actually 35% win rate with 7 wins 13 losses after 20 games. But I think it can do better than that.

[Blaze]

Please do fifty games with each deck to get a large enough pool, unless the deck has already been posted in stats. Also post the deck lists along with the stats rather than referring to your previous post. Thank you!

I can understand your want to not grind bronze, but would you please post stats for the plat decks you suggested? Thank you!

I've been grinding gold with poison dials and sometimes remembering to write down my stats. I'll try to stay more on top of that and will grind plat a bit too. I also have a Pestal deck so I'll stat with that as well

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Very nice thread!
I like the idea and that you add statics make this thread really worth reading. However I have some ideas.



The bronze decks is all upped. Most people grinding bronze grind un upped I suggest adding at least 1or 2 un upped and un rare decks.

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For example

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 55v 55v 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5og 5og 61q 61q 8pm

Now just some tips to some decks.
The Smarter Mono-Aether FG Grinder    A good deck but I would suggest adding 2sows instead of a dragon and a pend. YOu rather draw a Sow than a dragon.

Mono Air Rush by Ian   I suggest removing the weapons and the shields to add 3 fog shields and another sofree.

Chaos Wyrms Redone Since you don't need 6 wyrms to play 6 chaos seeds I suggest removing 1wyrm for a fog shield ,would really help in this deck.

The rol hope decks isn't really good I think.

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5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7kc 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pp

I use this one and I use to get around 40% win rate. I fyou don't have a nymph you can add another dragon or upped angel.

At last I miss a Fractal+Bal+Sop deck. Even if the winrate isn't as big as it used to be I still think it's at elast 35& in plat and higher in gold silver.

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Good suggestions!

For unupped Bronze grinder, I guess you must have missed the 'Spoiler for Bronze Archive' in OP where you can find some unupped ones.

Spoiler for Bronze Archive:

Brave Phoenix By Calindu, submitted by Mystik_
W:46 L:4  %: 92.00% TTW:6

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"I love Pharaoh" By Zeddino, submitted by Zarathustra1883
W:45 L:5  %: 90% TTW:8.73 EM:6/45 EM%: 13.33%

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The Wrecking Ball By Willng3, submitted by Jenkar, further testing by Eaglgenes101 and Cielo
W:159 L:19  %: 89.33% TTW:10.53 EM:9/96 EM%: 9.38%

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Unupped GravityBow By BunkeR, submitted by Bunker
W:43 L:7  %: 86.00% TTW:13

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Chaos Wyrms Redone By Dragonsdemesne, modified and submitted by WNxDarkmaster
W:47 L:8  %: 85.45%

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Fleshboids By Luminous, modified and submitted by Gandora
W:41 L:9  %: 82.00%

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Regen2k9's Unupped MonoDark By Regen2k9, submitted by VegeForsaken
W:41 L:12  %: 77.36%

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For the modifications, it's better to post your stats in details here.
Thank you!

Can you add stats for the decks please?

Very nice thread!
I like the idea and that you add statics make this thread really worth reading. However I have some ideas.

The bronze decks is all upped. Most people grinding bronze grind un upped I suggest adding at least 1or 2 un upped and un rare decks.
For example

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 55v 55v 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5og 5og 61q 61q 8pm

Now just some tips to some decks.
The Smarter Mono-Aether FG Grinder    A good deck but I would suggest adding 2sows instead of a dragon and a pend. YOu rather draw a Sow than a dragon.

Mono Air Rush by Ian   I suggest removing the weapons and the shields to add 3 fog shields and another sofree.

Chaos Wyrms Redone Since you don't need 6 wyrms to play 6 chaos seeds I suggest removing 1wyrm for a fog shield ,would really help in this deck.

The rol hope decks isn't really good I think.

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5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7kc 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pp

I use this one and I use to get around 40% win rate. I fyou don't have a nymph you can add another dragon or upped angel.

At last I miss a Fractal+Bal+Sop deck. Even if the winrate isn't as big as it used to be I still think it's at elast 35& in plat and higher in gold silver.

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7gq 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 809 809 809 809 80d 80d 80d 80i 80i 80i 80i 80m 8pp

I'm sorry but I won't start grinding bronze again, but if I would guess they might have around 50% and the deck with rare cards a bit higher. And I don't think I*m gonna test every single upped grinder sorry. But I can promise you that there are improvments for most decks.

Said and done. With the role hope I got
6 wins 14 losses after 20 games gives 30% win rate so lower than I expected but then I meet 6 decks where I could have use for reflect shield so if I had played it my win rate could have been around 40%

With the bal deck believe it or not I got actually 35% win rate with 7 wins 13 losses after 20 games. But I think it can do better than that.

[Blacksmith]

Please do fifty games with each deck to get a large enough pool, unless the deck has already been posted in stats. Also post the deck lists along with the stats rather than referring to your previous post. Thank you!

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I can understand your want to not grind bronze, but would you please post stats for the plat decks you suggested? Thank you!

I've been grinding gold with poison dials and sometimes remembering to write down my stats. I'll try to stay more on top of that and will grind plat a bit too. I also have a Pestal deck so I'll stat with that as well

Spoiler for Hidden:

Very nice thread!
I like the idea and that you add statics make this thread really worth reading. However I have some ideas.



The bronze decks is all upped. Most people grinding bronze grind un upped I suggest adding at least 1or 2 un upped and un rare decks.

Spoiler for Hidden:

For example

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 55v 55v 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5og 5og 61q 61q 8pm

Now just some tips to some decks.
The Smarter Mono-Aether FG Grinder    A good deck but I would suggest adding 2sows instead of a dragon and a pend. YOu rather draw a Sow than a dragon.

Mono Air Rush by Ian   I suggest removing the weapons and the shields to add 3 fog shields and another sofree.

Chaos Wyrms Redone Since you don't need 6 wyrms to play 6 chaos seeds I suggest removing 1wyrm for a fog shield ,would really help in this deck.

The rol hope decks isn't really good I think.

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5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7kc 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pp

I use this one and I use to get around 40% win rate. I fyou don't have a nymph you can add another dragon or upped angel.

At last I miss a Fractal+Bal+Sop deck. Even if the winrate isn't as big as it used to be I still think it's at elast 35& in plat and higher in gold silver.

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Good suggestions!

For unupped Bronze grinder, I guess you must have missed the 'Spoiler for Bronze Archive' in OP where you can find some unupped ones.

Spoiler for Bronze Archive:

Brave Phoenix By Calindu, submitted by Mystik_
W:46 L:4  %: 92.00% TTW:6

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"I love Pharaoh" By Zeddino, submitted by Zarathustra1883
W:45 L:5  %: 90% TTW:8.73 EM:6/45 EM%: 13.33%

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The Wrecking Ball By Willng3, submitted by Jenkar, further testing by Eaglgenes101 and Cielo
W:159 L:19  %: 89.33% TTW:10.53 EM:9/96 EM%: 9.38%

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Unupped GravityBow By BunkeR, submitted by Bunker
W:43 L:7  %: 86.00% TTW:13

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Chaos Wyrms Redone By Dragonsdemesne, modified and submitted by WNxDarkmaster
W:47 L:8  %: 85.45%

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Fleshboids By Luminous, modified and submitted by Gandora
W:41 L:9  %: 82.00%

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Regen2k9's Unupped MonoDark By Regen2k9, submitted by VegeForsaken
W:41 L:12  %: 77.36%

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For the modifications, it's better to post your stats in details here.
Thank you!

Can you add stats for the decks please?

Very nice thread!
I like the idea and that you add statics make this thread really worth reading. However I have some ideas.

The bronze decks is all upped. Most people grinding bronze grind un upped I suggest adding at least 1or 2 un upped and un rare decks.
For example

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 55q 55q 590 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5lm 5og 5og 61q 61q 8pm

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 55v 55v 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5og 5og 61q 61q 8pm

Now just some tips to some decks.
The Smarter Mono-Aether FG Grinder    A good deck but I would suggest adding 2sows instead of a dragon and a pend. YOu rather draw a Sow than a dragon.

Mono Air Rush by Ian   I suggest removing the weapons and the shields to add 3 fog shields and another sofree.

Chaos Wyrms Redone Since you don't need 6 wyrms to play 6 chaos seeds I suggest removing 1wyrm for a fog shield ,would really help in this deck.

The rol hope decks isn't really good I think.

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5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7kc 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pp

I use this one and I use to get around 40% win rate. I fyou don't have a nymph you can add another dragon or upped angel.

At last I miss a Fractal+Bal+Sop deck. Even if the winrate isn't as big as it used to be I still think it's at elast 35& in plat and higher in gold silver.

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7gq 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 809 809 809 809 80d 80d 80d 80i 80i 80i 80i 80m 8pp

I'm sorry but I won't start grinding bronze again, but if I would guess they might have around 50% and the deck with rare cards a bit higher. And I don't think I*m gonna test every single upped grinder sorry. But I can promise you that there are improvments for most decks.

Said and done. With the role hope I got
6 wins 14 losses after 20 games gives 30% win rate so lower than I expected but then I meet 6 decks where I could have use for reflect shield so if I had played it my win rate could have been around 40%

With the bal deck believe it or not I got actually 35% win rate with 7 wins 13 losses after 20 games. But I think it can do better than that.

[/spoiler]

Okay deck 1 is done. probably gonna take a while before I can do the other.
In total after 50 games,  20 wins and 26 losses which is a win rate on 40% in plat
This deck then.

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[Blaze]

Damn! That's pretty good 20+26=46, not fifty. Although I'm assuming it'll be enough for Elbirn to post. I'd ask him. Thanks!!

Please do fifty games with each deck to get a large enough pool, unless the deck has already been posted in stats. Also post the deck lists along with the stats rather than referring to your previous post. Thank you!

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I can understand your want to not grind bronze, but would you please post stats for the plat decks you suggested? Thank you!

I've been grinding gold with poison dials and sometimes remembering to write down my stats. I'll try to stay more on top of that and will grind plat a bit too. I also have a Pestal deck so I'll stat with that as well

Spoiler for Hidden:

Very nice thread!
I like the idea and that you add statics make this thread really worth reading. However I have some ideas.



The bronze decks is all upped. Most people grinding bronze grind un upped I suggest adding at least 1or 2 un upped and un rare decks.

Spoiler for Hidden:

For example

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 55q 55q 590 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5lm 5og 5og 61q 61q 8pm

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 55v 55v 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5og 5og 61q 61q 8pm

Now just some tips to some decks.
The Smarter Mono-Aether FG Grinder    A good deck but I would suggest adding 2sows instead of a dragon and a pend. YOu rather draw a Sow than a dragon.

Mono Air Rush by Ian   I suggest removing the weapons and the shields to add 3 fog shields and another sofree.

Chaos Wyrms Redone Since you don't need 6 wyrms to play 6 chaos seeds I suggest removing 1wyrm for a fog shield ,would really help in this deck.

The rol hope decks isn't really good I think.

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5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 7hi 7hi 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7kc 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pp

I use this one and I use to get around 40% win rate. I fyou don't have a nymph you can add another dragon or upped angel.

At last I miss a Fractal+Bal+Sop deck. Even if the winrate isn't as big as it used to be I still think it's at elast 35& in plat and higher in gold silver.

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Good suggestions!

For unupped Bronze grinder, I guess you must have missed the 'Spoiler for Bronze Archive' in OP where you can find some unupped ones.

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Brave Phoenix By Calindu, submitted by Mystik_
W:46 L:4  %: 92.00% TTW:6

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"I love Pharaoh" By Zeddino, submitted by Zarathustra1883
W:45 L:5  %: 90% TTW:8.73 EM:6/45 EM%: 13.33%

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The Wrecking Ball By Willng3, submitted by Jenkar, further testing by Eaglgenes101 and Cielo
W:159 L:19  %: 89.33% TTW:10.53 EM:9/96 EM%: 9.38%

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Chaos Wyrms Redone By Dragonsdemesne, modified and submitted by WNxDarkmaster
W:47 L:8  %: 85.45%

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Fleshboids By Luminous, modified and submitted by Gandora
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Regen2k9's Unupped MonoDark By Regen2k9, submitted by VegeForsaken
W:41 L:12  %: 77.36%

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For the modifications, it's better to post your stats in details here.
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Can you add stats for the decks please?

Very nice thread!
I like the idea and that you add statics make this thread really worth reading. However I have some ideas.

The bronze decks is all upped. Most people grinding bronze grind un upped I suggest adding at least 1or 2 un upped and un rare decks.
For example

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Now just some tips to some decks.
The Smarter Mono-Aether FG Grinder    A good deck but I would suggest adding 2sows instead of a dragon and a pend. YOu rather draw a Sow than a dragon.

Mono Air Rush by Ian   I suggest removing the weapons and the shields to add 3 fog shields and another sofree.

Chaos Wyrms Redone Since you don't need 6 wyrms to play 6 chaos seeds I suggest removing 1wyrm for a fog shield ,would really help in this deck.

The rol hope decks isn't really good I think.

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I use this one and I use to get around 40% win rate. I fyou don't have a nymph you can add another dragon or upped angel.

At last I miss a Fractal+Bal+Sop deck. Even if the winrate isn't as big as it used to be I still think it's at elast 35& in plat and higher in gold silver.

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I'm sorry but I won't start grinding bronze again, but if I would guess they might have around 50% and the deck with rare cards a bit higher. And I don't think I*m gonna test every single upped grinder sorry. But I can promise you that there are improvments for most decks.

Said and done. With the role hope I got
6 wins 14 losses after 20 games gives 30% win rate so lower than I expected but then I meet 6 decks where I could have use for reflect shield so if I had played it my win rate could have been around 40%

With the bal deck believe it or not I got actually 35% win rate with 7 wins 13 losses after 20 games. But I think it can do better than that.

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Okay deck 1 is done. probably gonna take a while before I can do the other.
In total after 50 games,  20 wins and 26 losses which is a win rate on 40% in plat
This deck then.

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Here are some more stats on the poison dial deck in gold

Wins: 16
Losses: 6

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