[OUTDATED - v1.27] turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27)

[nerd1]

someone needs to test this (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17835.0.html=) deck, because i will not have the time to test it 200 times. i tried testing it 20 times though, and got a ttw of about 8.1, so i think it will be worth it.

[DarknessDemon]

I would like to test this deck if thats okay?

ScaredGirls Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder (http://[url=Link to the deck)

[willng3]

I would like to test this deck if thats okay?

ScaredGirls Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder (http://If you can provide me with a complete list of stats for 50 games first then we'll see where we can go from there.

[Gocubbies1212]

AI setting on high speed.  Slow internet connection.  No nova variant.
Unupgraded Deja vu + adrenaline + momentum (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,4164.msg46056#msg46056)

Games: 50

Avg ttw:   9

Avg. sec/game: 149.72

Wins: 38

Losses: 12

Ems: 2

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 8ps

ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   0
ttw 6:   0
ttw 7:   10
ttw 8:   16
ttw 9:   14
ttw 10:   4
ttw 11:   0
ttw 12:   2
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   2
ttw 16:   2

Could someone please test this more?  I think the win rate could be better, the ttw go down, and with better internet connection, the sec/game will greatly decrease.

[willng3]

AI setting on high speed.

'Time' to rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21612.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg ttw:   6.848

Avg. sec/game: 63.185

Wins: 191

Losses: 9

Ems: 15

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6rk 6rk 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7qa 7qa 7qa 7qa 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qe 7qe 7qe 7qe 7qe 7qe 7ri 7ri 7ri 7ri 7ri 7ri 7ri 8ps

Games:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   63.185
Sec/Turn:   9.084831057
Clicks/Game:   13.935
Clicks/Turn:   2.003594536
Score/Min:   16.21429137
Electrum/Min:   16.57038854
   
Time overall (min.):   210.617
Wins:   191
Ems:   15
Losses:   9
Score:   3415
Electrum:   3490
Avg ttw:   6.848

ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   14
ttw 6:   73
ttw 7:   67
ttw 8:   15
ttw 9:   14
ttw 10:   4
ttw 11:   3
ttw 12:   1
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0
ttw 17:   0
ttw 18:   0
ttw 19:   0
ttw 20:   0
ttw 21:   0
ttw 22:   0
ttw 23:   0

This deck amuses me.  There are several cases where you can play a GotP and a Scarab at the same time and have the AI target the Scarab over the Ghost.  Very useful tactic if you're trying to build up damage, but be warned that this isn't guaranteed to succeed every time.  Mono Aether is definitely the biggest troublemaker; the rest of the Elders really didn't seem to cause too many problems.
Next to be tested is Immogavel (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18110.0.html)

[Calindu]

Next to be tested is Immogavel (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18110.0.html)

In Immogavel if you change RoL's with gemfinders/damseflyes you should receive better results.Maybe graboid for minor phoenix?

[pikachufan2164]

PvP Graboid Rainbow (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7528.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 8.651

Avg. sec/game: 74.160

Wins: 195 (97.50%)

Losses: 5

EMs: 9 (4.62%)

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 52q 55q 55q 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5i7 5og 5og 61q 61q

Score gained: 3328 Score/game: 16.640 Score/min: 13.463 Electrum gained (no spins): 3373 Electrum/game (no spins): 16.865 Electrum/min (no spins): 13.645 Electrum gained (with spins): 4343 Electrum/game (with spins): 21.715 Electrum/min (with spins): 17.569 Time overall (min.): 247.200

ttw 3: 0 ttw 4: 0 ttw 5: 0 ttw 6: 14 ttw 7: 45 ttw 8: 53 ttw 9: 33 ttw 10: 20 ttw 11: 13 ttw 12: 7 ttw 13: 4 ttw 14: 3 ttw 15: 2 ttw 16: 1 ttw 17: 0

Derp. Made a mathematical error in my stats post (only concerning electrum per game with spins and electrum per minute with spins); numbers corrected in the post I made earlier and highlighted in the spoiler.

[willng3]

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Noted and fixed, thank you.

[willng3]

AI setting on high speed.

Immogavel (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18110.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg ttw:   5.941

Avg. Sec/Game: 54.640

Wins: 188

Losses: 12

Ems: 22

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6rl 6rl 6rl 6rl 6rl 6rl 77e 77e 77e 77e 77e 77e 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 8pm

Games:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   54.640
Sec/Turn:   8.899022801
Clicks/Game:   14.290
Clicks/Turn:   2.327361564
Score/Min:   19.42532943
Electrum/Min:   20.02928258
   
Time overall (min.):   182.133
Wins:   188
Ems:   22
Losses:   12
Score:   3538
Electrum:   3648
Avg ttw:   5.941

ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   34
ttw 5:   54
ttw 6:   46
ttw 7:   24
ttw 8:   17
ttw 9:   5
ttw 10:   5
ttw 11:   1
ttw 12:   1
ttw 13:   1
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0
ttw 17:   0
ttw 18:   0
ttw 19:   0
ttw 20:   0
ttw 21:   0
ttw 22:   0
ttw 23:   0

Always nice to take a break from Trials deckbuilding to squeeze in a TTW study or two.
It's also nice to see the Gnomes make such a difference in speed here over the RoL.  There were a few cases where I almost wished that the mark was (Cremation grants 9 , 1 short of playing 2 Lava Destroyers), but that would obviously have some adverse effects to the deck itself if that were to change.  Dim Shields can be annoying, not much else is a regular threat.
Next to be tested is Burning Phoenix (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11765.0.html)

[pikachufan2164]

Kirchj has given me his raw data from the testing, so I've run his data through my own TTW spreadsheet in order to figure out the missing stats, as well as correct some of the clerical errors made on his spreadsheet.

Little Miss Fire [t50][pvp2] (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16560.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg. ttw: 7.010

Avg. sec/game: 80.250

Wins: 188 (94.00%)

Losses: 12

EMs: 15 (7.98%)

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6u2 6u2 6u2 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 74a 74a 7an 7an 7dr 7jv 7jv 7q1 7q1 7q1 7q1 7q1 80b 80b 80b 80b 8pu

Score gained: 3281 Score/game: 16.405 Score/min: 12.265 Electrum gained (no spins): 3356 Electrum/game (no spins): 16.780 Electrum/min (no spins): 12.546 Electrum gained (with spins): 4239 Electrum/game (with spins): 21.195 Electrum/min (with spins): 15.847 Time overall (min.): 267.500

Games: 200 avg. Sec/Game:  80.25 Sec/Turn:  11.448 Clicks/Game:  Unknown Clicks/Turn:  Unknown IG Scr. Efficiency: 735.9252 TSE (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21923.msg300096#msg300096) (similar to score per hour): 661.7143 TSE/60 (similar to Score/Min): 11.0286 Time overall (min.):    267.5 Wins:   200 Ems:  15 Losses:  12 Score:  3281 Electrum:  4239 Avg ttw:     7.010

TTW Details ttw 3:   0 ttw 4:   20 ttw 5:   36 ttw 6:   42 ttw 7:   30 ttw 8:   26 ttw 9:   16 ttw 10:   13 ttw 11:   2 ttw 12:   2 ttw 13:   1 ttw 14:   1 ttw 15:   0 ttw 16:   1 ttw 17: 0

[willng3]

AI setting on high speed.

Burning Phoenix (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11765.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg ttw:   6.010

Avg. Sec/Game: 57.155

Wins: 194

Losses: 6

Ems: 23

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7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7di 7di 7di 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 8pm

Games:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   57.155
Sec/Turn:   9.293495935
Clicks/Game:   16.925
Clicks/Turn:   2.75203252
Score/Min:   19.5783396
Electrum/Min:   20.18196133
   
Time overall (min.):   190.517
Wins:   194
Ems:   23
Losses:   6
Score:   3730
Electrum:   3845
Avg ttw:   6.010

ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   23
ttw 5:   69
ttw 6:   48
ttw 7:   23
ttw 8:   17
ttw 9:   6
ttw 10:   4
ttw 11:   2
ttw 12:   0
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   2
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0
ttw 17:   0
ttw 18:   0
ttw 19:   0
ttw 20:   0
ttw 21:   0
ttw 22:   0
ttw 23:   0

Lots of quanta in this deck.  But looking at the creatures, it's not surprising x)
I was probably annoyed the most by the Voodoo elder.  Nothing else really has as much drastic mass CC as it does.  Otherwise Destroyers can outgrow most CC unless you get a slow draw.
Next to be tested is Mummies Riding Toxic Spiders (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10074.0.html)

[willng3]

AI setting on high speed.

Mummies Riding Toxic Spiders (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10074.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg ttw:   6.670

Avg. Sec/Game: 53.050

Wins: 197

Losses: 3

Ems: 9

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710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 711 711 713 713 713 713 713 713 718 718 718 718 718 718 71a 71d 71d 71d 71d 8pk

Games:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   53.050
Sec/Turn:   7.929745889
Clicks/Game:   11.445
Clicks/Turn:   1.710762332
Score/Min:   19.54948162
Electrum/Min:   19.80395853
   
Time overall (min.):   176.833
Wins:   197
Ems:   9
Losses:   3
Score:   3457
Electrum:   3502
Avg ttw:   6.670

ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   18
ttw 6:   83
ttw 7:   59
ttw 8:   24
ttw 9:   9
ttw 10:   4
ttw 11:   0
ttw 12:   0
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0
ttw 17:   0
ttw 18:   0
ttw 19:   0
ttw 20:   0
ttw 21:   0
ttw 22:   0
ttw 23:   0

0.135TTW slower than in 1.26 indicates that this deck's speed was largely unaffected by the latest updates.  This deck is truly the definition of a mindless rush; the biggest decisions needing to be made were usually which creatures did the most damage for that turn.  Its speed in terms of Sec/game is off the chart.  Poison negates most of the typical stall-breaking Elders, namely the Mono Aether elder (although PU still causes a few problems there).  For a minuscule increase in speed, switch 5-6 Towers with Pends.
Fun fact:  The AI will not target Mummies with Reverse Time.
Next to be tested is Phoenixplosion! Quite Literally! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13526.0.html)