[OUTDATED - v1.27] turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27)

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USEmitosis1adren

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6rk 6rk 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7an 7ap 7ap 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu(blanks are mitosis)
Wins: 50
Loss: 0
EM: 30
TTW AVG; 7.48
Full game list:
7, 7, 6, 9, 6, 7, 6, 6, 6, 7, 6, 8, 8, 9, 8, 5, 8, 11, 7, 7, 8, 12, 9, 6, 7, 8, 13, 5, 6, 8, 8, 7, 8, 6, 7, 5, 6, 5, 6, 7, 7, 7, 9, 5, 7, 7, 7, 6, 7, 12, 9
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USEM

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6rk 6rk 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu
usem
start:
electrum: 6912
Score: 72898
L:2
W: 48
EM: 34
TTW: 6.9(7.0)
Full game list:
6,6,8,6,6,7,5,6,7,10,5,10,8,6,6,7,6,7,6,8,7,5,5,6,6,10,6,9,7,11,7,7,6,6,7,7,9,5,6,7,9,8,7,6,10,6,7,7


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USEMep

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6rk 6rk 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7an 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu
score: 74329
electrum: 10071
L:2
W: 48
EM: 31
ttw: 7.1
full game list:
5,5,10,7,5,5,15,8,6,7,6,6,7,11,5,7,8,7,6,8,7,7,9,8,6,8,6,9,5,8,6,12,6,6,6,8,10,6,6,7,7,9,8,8,6,8,8,7.
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USEMitosis

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6rk 6rk 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ap 7ap 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu
start:
electrum: 12554
score: 75705
fin:
electrum: 14443
score: 77109

l:1
w:49
em:33
ttw: 7,2(4489~)
full game list
8,7,7,7,7,7,6,6,6,9,6,7,6,10,7,6,7,6,8,12,8,7,8,6,6,6,5,7,7,6,11,6,9,11,8,7,8,7,6,5,7,11,8,8,6,6,8,6,6
Hmm, so yeah.USEM is still the bomb, just doing some minor tweaks and testing it mostly for my own gain (This way I dont grow bored, and im still gaining x] just thought I'd share it anyhow~~)

[migster99]

As I have seen, all the decks tested are upped...

If someone could test unupped, could you please do grabbix and ubah stompy? They were the fastest unupped 2 for the 1.26 ttw study

[willng3]

As I have seen, all the decks tested are upped...

If someone could test unupped, could you please do grabbix and ubah stompy? They were the fastest unupped 2 for the 1.26 ttw study

Ubah Stompy is what I'm currently testing now.  Grabbix was (and still is) my goal afterwards.

[Svenningen]

I don't mind testing if you need testers. I can make all and every unupped deck (unless they feature an exessive amount of nymphs, in that case i can cover a deck with 3 useless aether ones.. lol ) And several upped decks. Getting richer by the hour, so let me know if you need another tester.

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6rk 6rk 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7an 7an 7an 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu
Just testing sum random decks, im having fun.

USEMonEPI
Score: 77109
w: 3347
l: 2034
-study-
score: 78564
w: 3397
l: 2034

L:
W:50
EM:32
TTW:7.34
full game list
8,8,8,8,8,8,9,10,9,8,6,6,6,6,6,6,5,5,6,7,7,7,7,7,15,6,8,7,5,5,6,8,7,5,6,10,13,6,6,6,9,9,9,9,7,6,5,5,6,12
I'd be happy if some went over my ttw real quick, it might be off. Im not good at that part x] (even tho its 2nd grade math)

[willng3]

AI setting on high speed.

Ubah Stompy (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14020.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg. TTW: 7.122

Avg. sec/game: 71.650

Wins: 181

Losses: 19

Ems: 12

posted by - willng3

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 55u 5c1 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5rrGames:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   71.650
Sec/Turn:   9.630376344
Clicks/Game:   24.040
Clicks/Turn:   3.231182796
Score/Min:   12.6406141
Electrum/Min:   12.89183531
   
Time overall (min.):   238.833
Wins:   181
Ems:   12
Losses:   19
Score:   3019
Electrum:   3079
Avg ttw:   7.122

ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   22
ttw 6:   69
ttw 7:   32
ttw 8:   24
ttw 9:   17
ttw 10:   6
ttw 11:   2
ttw 12:   5
ttw 13:   2
ttw 14:   2
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0

Well, that AI intelligence boost certainly put a dent in this deck's speed.  No longer breaking the 7 turn sound barrier was a big disappointment for me personally.  Perhaps the biggest surprise was that the deck's speed was hindered not by the usually suspects (Wings, Dim Shield) but by CC alone.  Pandemonium, Rage Potions, Owl's Eyes, Otys all seemed more dangerous than usual this time around.

War's got me busy now, but hopefully I'll have Grabbix (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html) within the next week or so.

[pikachufan2164]

Commencing TTW study on TADAbow (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22518.0.html) (-2 Precog +1 Crawler +1 Heal version); it will probably take a while to finish, but it's there to help distract me from my upcoming finals

[willng3]

One week later!

AI setting on high speed.

Grabbix (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg ttw:   6.968

Avg. sec/game: 67.550

Wins: 190

Losses: 10

Ems: 12

posted by - willng3

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9Games:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   67.550
Sec/Turn:   9.460784314
Clicks/Game:   17.920
Clicks/Turn:   2.509803922
Score/Min:   14.58919319
Electrum/Min:   14.85566247
   
Time overall (min.):   225.167
Wins:   190
Ems:   12
Losses:   10
Score:   3285
Electrum:   3345
Avg ttw:   6.968

ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   31
ttw 6:   62
ttw 7:   41
ttw 8:   33
ttw 9:   7
ttw 10:   3
ttw 11:   7
ttw 12:   3
ttw 13:   2
ttw 14:   1
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0

Lmao, this is the third time that Grabbix and Ubah Stompy have switched places for #1 on the unupped deck list.  This time though, Grabbix is clearly more superior; it's faster, more durable, and earns you more profits at the end.  It's highly recommended to newer players for a reason, and this test run just shows why.  Plus it broke the 7TTW sound barrier, which is awesome.

I'm still a bit busy lately, but after about 2 or 3 weeks I should have lots of free time for a good long while.  I'll test Mono-Life Adrenaline Rush as soon as I get a chance (for which there is no link, sadly).

I don't know what's going to happen with this thread now that jmdt has announced his inactivity, but regardless I'll keep submitting statistics here for others to refer to.

[~Napalm]

Hmmm... I'm bound and determined to make Fire the fastest Mono. Gimme a while and it's sure to happen!

[pikachufan2164]

Tested on a semi-functional high speed AI (i.e. computer is not powerful enough to fully utilize the high speed).

TADAbow - AI3 Domination, Rainbow style (no Precog variant) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22518.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 7.834

Avg. sec/game: 67.240

Wins: 199 (99.50%)

Losses: 1

EMs: 167 (83.92%)

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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u5 6u5 6u5 713 74f 74f 74f 77g 77g 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7dq 7gm 7gm 7jr 7tf 80g

Score gained: 6392 Score/game: 31.960 Score/min: 28.519 Electrum gained (no spins): 7227 Electrum/game (no spins): 36.135 Electrum/min (no spins): 32.244 Electrum gained (with spins): 8172 Electrum/game (with spins): 40.860 Electrum/min (with spins): 36.460 Time overall (min.): 224.133

ttw 3: 0 ttw 4: 1 ttw 5: 9 ttw 6: 42 ttw 7: 50 ttw 8: 39 ttw 9: 25 ttw 10: 15 ttw 11: 9 ttw 12: 3 ttw 13: 3 ttw 14: 0 ttw 15: 2 ttw 16: 0 ttw 17: 1

Waitwhat, it's more efficient than USEM (as per Will's results)? On a computer that can't completely use high speed AI to its fullest potential? I seriously think that I got lucky in this 200 game sample. Or maybe Discord/BH lockdown EM is just that good when played correctly.

[willng3]

Waitwhat, it's more efficient than USEM (as per Will's results)? On a computer that can't completely use high speed AI to its fullest potential? I seriously think that I got lucky in this 200 game sample. Or maybe Discord/BH lockdown EM is just that good when played correctly.

Yeah, it's barely more efficient.  Since USEM finished its 200 games ~17 minutes sooner than TADAbow you'd have to compare both of them within that same frame of time to get a good comparison between the two.  In saying that, after 207.117min. USEM gains 6631 electrum whereas TADA gains 6678 electrum.  So yeah, it's extremely close, but going off of stats alone it looks like TADA surpasses USEM.

However.
Going based on my stats again, it does not surpass USEMosis (approximately 65 electrum more).  But since that's not recorded here it's probably not that important to this study in particular.

[Bhlewos]

Deckname: Unupped Shrieker Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,482.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 8.01

Avg. sec/game: 69.62

Wins: 163

Losses: 37

Ems: 6

posted by - Bhlewos

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4t4 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 590 590 590 590 590 590 591 591 591 591 591 591

Score gained: 2311 Electrum gained: 3176 Time overall (min.): 225.1 Sec/Turn: 10.35 Score/Min: 10.27 Electrum/Min: 14.11

ttw 3: 0 ttw 4: 0 ttw 5: 0 ttw 6: 15 ttw 7: 57 ttw 8: 45 ttw 9: 23 ttw 10: 11 ttw 11: 6 ttw 12: 5 ttw 13: 1 ttw 14: 0 ttw 15: 0 ttw 16: 0 ttw 17: 0 ttw 18: 0 ttw 19: 0 ttw 20: 0

I still have to look at how this compares to other Unupped AI3 grinders, but my personal thoughts after playing this are don't. It's fast and effective, with an 81.5% win rate against 1.27, but extremely vulnerable to any form of CC and on top of that boring as hell. The Mono-Aether AI3 in particular should just be skipped. There's the off chance that it won't chain Dimensional Shields, but that chance is too small to be worth it. Against any other AI3, you should probably play through the game.