Hybrid pendulums

[OdinVanguard]

Ok, first off, stop me now if this has already been done / discussed. If not, then I think this could be a very nice way to help support trio and quartet type decks (especially if hybrid marks are added as well).
The easiest way to start this off is with an example:
For a list of currently developed hybrid marks (all 66) and hybrid card backgrounds (still in progress) see:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,46114.0.html

Here is a link to this card / series idea in the smithy:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,46772.0.html

So essentially, just combine the pendulum and hybrid mark ideas.
There would be 66 hybrid pendulums total, 1 for each of the 66 hybrid psuedo-elements.
The generation would be implemented as a normal pendulum except when generating "hybrid quanta" basically just means generating one of the two component quanta.
E.g. "diseric" would produce either one or one on the first turn, then mark quanta on the next, etc.
This would greatly enhance quanta production stability of a trio or quartet deck since it would reduce the number of different cards a player needs to draw in order to generate the quanta they need.

Hybrid marks woud work similarly, producing one of their two quanta types each turn.
Hybrid marks and pendulums could also make a nice leadin for booster packs, new quest lines, etc.
E.g.
Enabling hybrid marks could make for a fun quest. maybe something like kill X half-bloods in a row.
Hybrid pendulums could make a nice starter series for "booster packs"... but I digress

With hybrid pendulums plus hybrid marks, you could easily power quartets using just 1 hybrid pendulum type plus a hybrid mark. Or you could mix and match among the various pendulum combinations if some elements are needed more heavily than others.

[Rutarete]

Yay for trios and quads! I approve

[Chapuz]

I thought about pends that produce quanta of n element and its opposite. Trio ones may generate quanta too slow.

[treebeard xiii]

I'm with rutarete hybrid pends would definately allow for more stable quads and trios which until nw could only really be splashes or ffq decks add the hybrid pend and hybrid marks

[dragonsdemesne]

I'm in favour of anything that will make trios/quads and the like more easily played.  It could make for a decent rare or fill a similar niche to that; it would give endgame players something to work towards.  Given the number of them that would exist, putting them into arena spins would be bad, but perhaps as bazaar cards that cost more than other pendulums. (say 200  each).

[Pella]

Just to be clear, when producing Diseric quanta, would the pendulum alternate between and , or would it select one at random each time?


Edit: Because I can't tell the difference between and , apparently.

[Chapuz]

Option 1:  ,  , Mark sequance.

Option 2: 

[Pella]

[size=78%]Quote from: Chapuz on Today at 11:15:39[/size][size=78%]<blockquote>Option 1: , , Mark sequence.[/size]

Option 2: </blockquote>

Ah.  Option 1 was what I had in mind.  Actually, I was thinking of something like , Mark, , Mark, <repeat>.  That would be REALLY slow, though, so your Option 1 definitely is better.  The next question is, What happens if the Mark is a hybrid?  Presumably, that would alternate, too.

Option 2 goes back and forth between two elements, which is what most pends do.  However, it misses giving you Mark quanta.  While many deck builders would use a hybrid pend identical to their hybrid Mark, some would choose a solo Mark or a different hybrid Mark.  In those cases, Option 2 does not deliver any Mark quanta, which IMO is a requirement for a pend.

Edit: Because I can't tell the difference between and , apparently.

[OdinVanguard]

The way I figured that it would work is that each time a "Diseric Quanta" gets produced it produces either 1 or 1 at random. I think the random aspect would be good in there since it will help standard pillars and pendulums stay useful.

Adding these into bazaar at high price could work out well.

I think there is some merit to having them be rares (not buyable in bazaar), but it could be aggravating to new players unless there was a good outlet to collect them from.

Hybrid pendulums could also make a nice way to start off booster packs if that idea ever takes off. They would give Zanz a way to add lots of content for the packs with a relative minimum of fuss (compared to other hybrid cars at least)... Given the very large number of different types (66 total) and also the fact that decks could benefit from large numbers of any one given type, they would make ideal filler cards. This is a topic for a different board though
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,43027.0.html

They would also be fun added to the various random AI decks. Particularly half bloods (which would benefit greatly from them I think).  That would give players a good reason to hunt half bloods. A really fun idea would be to have a "special spin" like in arena (maybe for killing 6 or 7 halfbloods in a row as a repeatable daily quest), but limited to only hybrid pendulums.

Here is a link to the smithy topic for this series idea: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,46772.0.html
I'm not sure the best way to present a series this large in the CIA boards, so let me know if there is a better option.