need suggestive improvements for my pvp/top50 mono water deck

[killybob]

this here is my deck. i refined it a bit myself and, so far, it's proved very good. i do, however, want some advice on ways i might make it better and more efficient. obviously i used the trainer to do most of the upgrades (except for the puffers which have to be upgraded to work mono water).

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if people could also suggest some good rainbow decks (minimal upgrade please) then that would also be good.

thnx

[funplay]

hmmm...i dont know. I dont have much experience with mono water, but still...

No offence, but: you say you tested this? Cause i really got problems to imagine that this deck will be really succesfull in T50 ...sorry.

Why?

-> the deck is not really fast, only big creatures. you may put 1-3 creatures on the table...thats it. That simply wont kill the enemy really fast...-> rush decks will probably kill you faster most of the time^^ -> abyss crawler might be a better idea, also 6 dragons are probably too much

-> the deck has no means of Creature Control or Permanent Control (well, mono water just cant do this) -> so any nasty creature or nasty permanents will pose a serious threat... -> stall/control deck will kill you most of the time...

You might want to look at some mono water decks  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,32.0.html) of that link...you will probably notice that most of them use some sort of creature control e.g. ice bolt, freeze, arctic squid...these cards give you the necessary time to finish the game.

btw: the mark is missing...i assume its either air or water...

Here be rainbows (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11022.0.html), at least two of them...i personally like the Healbow...Furthermore SCEM (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18665.0.html) seems to me to be a pretty decent build, though i never tested it....ARRGH, just noticed that they are upgraded...your totally upgraded deck mislead me  Anyway, good old Grabix (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html) is also a pretty decent build, imho...

One last question: As your quite new in the forums (welcome, btw) and you are looking for unupgraded decks, i assume you just started...why developing a upped mono water deck? just curious

[killybob]

thanks for the help funplay

oddly enough that deck actually works very well. i know it is strange that such content as dragons and puffers (6 of each) should work like they do for me! i have carefully balanced out a good ratio of creatures to pillars (using the QI theory) and i usually finish off my enemy in 6-8 turns. and that's without any more than 6 upgraded cards (the puffers).

as for the reason why i would create a fully upgraded deck on trainer is because I've actually been on elements for quite some time and am near the stage of getting a full deck of upgrades on my normal account. i need low upgrade rainbow decks cos my other account which (prior to my knowledge of the trainer) was my test deck. now i want a good false god farmer to have some variation in my element but i need with that one to start from scratch.

anyway thank you lots for the comment i need lots of healthy criticism to aid me in my deck building.

[funplay]

ok, a ttw about 7 IS quite fast...i definitely underestimated that deck.

If you really want to start FG farming with an almost unupped Rainbow SGs almost unupped FG Killer (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1615.0.html) should probably be your choice?!

But, as you might already know, RoL/Hope decks are quite an alternative to this...

[ratcharmer]

Permafrost is a great card, but you might want to experiment with switching them out for Abyss Crawlers. It seems like this is primarily a rush deck, but there's two stall cards mixed in.

Then again, straight rushes are more of an AI3 thing than a t50 thing.

Probably best to try it in the trainer first. Don't want to spend the to get two new upgraded cards only to find out they don't work well.

Really though I think you're in pretty good shape. You've got the quanta balanced and the deck is pretty focused. Unfortunately I think rushes don't get much better than 7 or 8 ttw.

[thatnewguy]

Uhhhh I'd like to point out RR made a mono water rush with a extremely low ttw with about a 6ttw.
Shown here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12916.12.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12916.12.html) (might also help you on your water rush )

[ratcharmer]

Uhhhh I'd like to point out RR made a mono water rush with a extremely low ttw with about a 6ttw.
Shown here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12916.12.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12916.12.html) (might also help you on your water rush )

My understanding is that that's versus AI3 while the7-8 ttw here is versus t50. I was just trying to say 7 ttw versus t50 is pretty impressive.

[EpicFirestorm]

The 5+ Arctic Dragons is a must. The Puffer Fish is pretty good as well. But, of course, you're going to need all those Water Pillar/Towers. I reckon you've done pretty good with the overall construction.

[killybob]

thanks all for your help. i hope to see some definite improvements in my tactical game play

also could someone tell me what  is and what it means
thnx

[manaboy100]

  is Underworld, a team for the war It's for those applied and didn't accepted in any team, that's it, isn't it?

[killybob]

ok thanks i thought was a mix of  +