Mono Element Turns to Win

[QuantumT]

I was thinking it might be fun do to a study where we compared what the elements are capable of in a full mono. This will be done in the same way as the regular turns to win study, with the only stipulation being that the decks are monos.

The best way to go about it I think would be to come up with some decks for each elements and decide on a couple to test for the purposes of the study.

[QuantumT]

*Reserved*

[~Napalm]

Mono Fire
Deck 1:

by ~Napalm

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5fc 5fc 5fc 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dm 7dm 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 8pm

[kirchj33]

Mono Light
Deck 1:

by kirchj33

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6rk 6rk 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7ju 7ju 7ju 7ju 7jv 7jv 7jv 7jv 7jv 7jv 8pr

Also, @Napalm, while your deck is certainly more practical, I know from experience dropping the explosions will net you faster TTWs vs. elders.  I would suggest longswords > gavels > explosions.

[willng3]

Taken from the current TTW Study:

Frogs, and Epi's, and Swords, Oh My!!! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11285.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg. ttw: 6.052

Avg. sec/game: 53.290

Wins: 194

Losses: 6

Ems: 17

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6rk 6rk 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7an 7an 7an 7an 7an 7an 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu
Games:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   53.290
Sec/Turn:   8.650974026
Clicks/Game:   12.805
Clicks/Turn:   2.078733766
Score/Min:   20.27209608
Electrum/Min:   20.75060987
   
Time overall (min.):   177.633
Wins:   211
Ems:   17
Losses:   6
Score:   3601
Electrum:   3686
Avg. TTW: 6.052

ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   74
ttw 6:   65
ttw 7:   34
ttw 8:   15
ttw 9:   4
ttw 10:   2
ttw 11:   0
ttw 12:   0
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0

Mono-Earth Shrieker Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,482.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg. ttw: 6.134

Avg. sec/game: 52.140

Wins: 193

Losses: 7

Ems: 24

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6rk 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77h 77h 77h 77h 77h 77h
Games:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   52.140
Sec/Turn:   8.309163347
Clicks/Game:   13.275
Clicks/Turn:   2.115537849
Score/Min:   21.21979287
Electrum/Min:   21.91024166
   
Time overall (min.):   173.800
Wins:   217
Ems:   24
Losses:   7
Score:   3688
Electrum:   3808

Avg ttw:   6.134

ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   2
ttw 5:   65
ttw 6:   73
ttw 7:   29
ttw 8:   16
ttw 9:   3
ttw 10:   5
ttw 11:   1
ttw 12:   0
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0

Totally Upgraded AI3 Mastery Despoiler: (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11412.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 8.249

Avg. sec/game: 67.99

Wins: 193

Losses: 7

Ems: 114

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7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t8 7ta 7ta 7tb 7td 7td 7td 7td 7td 7td 7tf 7tf 7tf 7tf 7tf 7um 7um 7um 7um

Score gained: 5138 Electrum gained: 6450 Time overall (min.): 218.7 Sec/Turn: 8.242 Score/Min: 23.493 Electrum/Min: 29.492

ttw 3: 0 ttw 4: 0 ttw 5: 0 ttw 6: 18 ttw 7: 55 ttw 8: 48 ttw 9: 31 ttw 10: 21 ttw 11: 11 ttw 12: 4 ttw 13: 2 ttw 14: 1 ttw 15: 0 ttw 16: 1 ttw 17: 0 ttw 18: 0 ttw 19: 0 ttw 20: 0

Mono Life Rush

Games: 200

Avg ttw:   7.769

Avg. sec/game: 72.905

Wins: 160

Losses: 40

Ems: 9

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5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de
Games:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   72.905
Sec/Turn:   8.789029536
Clicks/Game:   15.600
Clicks/Turn:   1.880650995
Score/Min:   9.534325492
Electrum/Min:   9.719497977
   
Time overall (min.):   243.017
Wins:   160
Ems:   9
Losses:   40
Score:   2317
Electrum:   2362
Avg ttw:   7.769

ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   0
ttw 6:   22
ttw 7:   62
ttw 8:   42
ttw 9:   14
ttw 10:   10
ttw 11:   6
ttw 12:   3
ttw 13:   1
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0

Deckname: Unupped Shrieker Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,482.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 8.01

Avg. sec/game: 69.62

Wins: 163

Losses: 37

Ems: 6

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4t4 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 590 590 590 590 590 590 591 591 591 591 591 591

Score gained: 2311 Electrum gained: 3176 Time overall (min.): 225.1 Sec/Turn: 10.35 Score/Min: 10.27 Electrum/Min: 14.11

ttw 3: 0 ttw 4: 0 ttw 5: 0 ttw 6: 15 ttw 7: 57 ttw 8: 45 ttw 9: 23 ttw 10: 11 ttw 11: 6 ttw 12: 5 ttw 13: 1 ttw 14: 0 ttw 15: 0 ttw 16: 0 ttw 17: 0 ttw 18: 0 ttw 19: 0 ttw 20: 0

There's a bunch more listed on the 2.0 TTW Study (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17903.0.html), but those not listed here already can possibly be improved upon.

[pikachufan2164]

A few questions: (I will edit these out afterwards)

1.  Is an off-mark like Napalm posted allowed?  If so, I am sure the deck above will perform well vs. elders.
2.  Are you looking for 50 games? 200?
3.  Whats the rule on gavels/long swords/long bows?

If I'm interpreting this correctly, the decks will follow the forum definition of mono (one element + Other, any mark). 200 games, as with any full TTW study.

[10 men]

Here's a good list for mono Shrieker rush:

by 10 men

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6rk 6rk 6rk 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77h 77h 77h 77h 77h 8ps

Just posting because all those lists with only one Long Sword make me cringe...

[hrmmm]

I really like this idea though im not sure if its a benefit for the community to do it seperated from the "regular" ttw studys.
Specially if this is including upgraded decks.
A newer player should have a easy way to compaire them with non-monos.
-> If you plan to grind for a full upped ai3 grinder, it doesnt need to be a mono, right?

Since im planing to reactivate ttw 3.0 (more action there soon, i promise), i would like to avoid  to doubletesting decks - here and in the ttw 3.0

Dont get me wrong here; this idea has my full support, also the attemp to find actualised decks for a beginners guide (like jmizzle7 one).

[kirchj33]

I really like this idea though im not sure if its a benefit for the community to do it seperated from the "regular" ttw studys.
Specially if this is including upgraded decks.
A newer player should have a easy way to compaire them with non-monos.
-> If you plan to grind for a full upped ai3 grinder, it doesnt need to be a mono, right?

Since im planing to reactivate ttw 3.0 (more action there soon, i promise), i would like to avoid  to doubletesting decks - here and in the ttw 3.0

Dont get me wrong here; this idea has my full support, also the attemp to find actualised decks for a beginners guide (like jmizzle7 one).

1.  That sounds good.  I know willng3 did a lot of work last night to try and reorganize the 3.0 information.  Perhaps there could be further breakdown into Unupped Decks, Unupped Monos, Upped Decks, and Upped Monos?  This could be invaluable information for PvP events (War etc.)

2.  I always get concerned when the TTW studies receive too much publicity and exposure to new players.  Even a lot of veterans see some of these speed decks as good sources of score and electrum, whereas the reality is that a good elder EM deck can be nearly twice as profitable for score and electrum (excluding spins).  I just wanted to caution the community once again.  I feel this is my purpose in life 

[jippy99]

This is a great idea, I'm glad you came up with it QT.  If anyone needs me to test decks (preferably unupped), I am more than willing to.

[Wolfunit]

Nice study so far QuantumT we really needed one for mono decks.

[coinich]

Is there a reason the mono Light deck's weapon is a Sword/Longsword instead of Bow/Longbow?