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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg489473#msg489473
« Reply #300 on: April 29, 2012, 10:34:40 am »
Discovered a somewhat crazy combo today.
Oty + BB + Epi = 2 turn epic CC.
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The main combo is Oty + BB + Epi. The rest are fillers.
How can this be improved?

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg489478#msg489478
« Reply #301 on: April 29, 2012, 10:42:00 am »
Discovered a somewhat crazy combo today.
Oty + BB + Epi = 2 turn epic CC.
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The main combo is Oty + BB + Epi. The rest are fillers.
How can this be improved?

I suggested that combo once in the Deck Help section to someone who didn't have upped cards xD
Personally I don't think BB is needed since Heavy Armor can do the job as well except you want to eat Armagios, too ^^

However, I'd replace the Graboid for SoFo, providing a bit PC, the Gargoyle for a Vamp Dagger if you want to keep the crusader. The rest seems standard Rainbow :)
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg489489#msg489489
« Reply #302 on: April 29, 2012, 11:07:35 am »
Discovered a somewhat crazy combo today.
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The main combo is Oty + BB + Epi. The rest are fillers.
How can this be improved?

Well, plain plate armor should suffice in most cases unless you want to devour :gravity creatures...
Also the combo is too card-specific and gimmicky; how often can it be executed from your experience?
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg489495#msg489495
« Reply #303 on: April 29, 2012, 11:40:58 am »
Well, the BB can also be used as CC, and the Epi for extra damage. You only need one super Oty, the rest can be used for offense.
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg489613#msg489613
« Reply #304 on: April 29, 2012, 04:52:51 pm »
I will try to work on this idea, it seems very viable to do many things!!

EDIT: I have tries to make something more focused on the trainer, just with Otys, epis, BB and TU. It was a too slow combo to dominate AI4 =(
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg492745#msg492745
« Reply #305 on: May 04, 2012, 05:15:08 pm »
So i heard someone said "Cloak and Dagger".
The reason why Cloak as a mechanic is suitable for Darkness is that Darkness is also about stealth, a.k.a. Cloak and Dagger.  While I see that it could be suitable for other elements, I feel that should they deserve the mechanic at the appropriate time, there will be some flavor thrown in.
This is the link: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,39590.msg492667.html#msg492667
It's a debate about Cloak. Anyway, the important thing is, this gave me inspiration.
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It's still far from optimal. Mainly lack of damage.
Can haz improve?
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg492746#msg492746
« Reply #306 on: May 04, 2012, 05:18:16 pm »
So i heard someone said "Cloak and Dagger".
The reason why Cloak as a mechanic is suitable for Darkness is that Darkness is also about stealth, a.k.a. Cloak and Dagger.  While I see that it could be suitable for other elements, I feel that should they deserve the mechanic at the appropriate time, there will be some flavor thrown in.
This is the link: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,39590.msg492667.html#msg492667
It's a debate about Cloak. Anyway, the important thing is, this gave me inspiration.
And this is the deck.
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It's still far from optimal. Mainly lack of damage.
Can haz improve?
Swapping a Dagger and a pest for 2 Eclipses?
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg492750#msg492750
« Reply #307 on: May 04, 2012, 05:24:19 pm »
So i heard someone said "Cloak and Dagger".
The reason why Cloak as a mechanic is suitable for Darkness is that Darkness is also about stealth, a.k.a. Cloak and Dagger.  While I see that it could be suitable for other elements, I feel that should they deserve the mechanic at the appropriate time, there will be some flavor thrown in.
This is the link: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,39590.msg492667.html#msg492667
It's a debate about Cloak. Anyway, the important thing is, this gave me inspiration.
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It's still far from optimal. Mainly lack of damage.
Can haz improve?
Swapping a Dagger and a pest for 2 Eclipses?

or just the siphon lifes?
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg492752#msg492752
« Reply #308 on: May 04, 2012, 05:27:16 pm »
maybe splash some  :earth in there to try for a PA+cloak combo? and pray that mass CC isnt used? :P

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg492767#msg492767
« Reply #309 on: May 04, 2012, 05:49:36 pm »
Absol, why do you hate nightfall/eclipse? :P

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg493321#msg493321
« Reply #310 on: May 05, 2012, 05:10:22 pm »
new deck coming up! actually not really new, i have to give credit to a another forum user that i really cant remember right now, i shall edit this later

a pretty interesting deck, it manages to have it all in theory

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good renewable CC, good renewable PC ----> good rewewable denial too!

can draw fast and prevent deckout, has decent critters and the worst that can really happen to the deck is a bad starting hand and bad draws alltogether

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg493333#msg493333
« Reply #311 on: May 05, 2012, 05:46:22 pm »
new deck coming up! actually not really new, i have to give credit to a another forum user that i really cant remember right now, i shall edit this later

a pretty interesting deck, it manages to have it all in theory

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good renewable CC, good renewable PC ----> good rewewable denial too!

can draw fast and prevent deckout, has decent critters and the worst that can really happen to the deck is a bad starting hand and bad draws alltogether

what do you think?

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