Nadir | Nadir

[Bloodshadow]

Nadir | Nadir

This card is my entry to the Opposites Attract card design contest. The previous version of this card did not satisfy the contest criteria, so I made a second version that is significantly changed. That's why I'm starting a new thread.

NAME: Nadir ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 6 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 5|2 ABILITY: Nadir's ATK cannot be reduced.   : Incite Target creature gains +3/-3.	NAME: Nadir ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 5 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 5|2 ABILITY: Nadir's ATK cannot be reduced.   : Incite Target creature gains +3/-3.

ART: Bloodshadow IDEA: Bloodshadow NOTES: Some of you may recognize the artwork. Yes, it is the dark half of my Duality picture. Nadir's ATK cannot be decreased in any way. This includes shield effects. Nadir is still affected by shields such as Ice Shield, Fire Shield, Procrastination. It is still affected by shields, but its damage cannot be blocked. This is like a pseudo-momentum, and it is passive. - Winner of the Opposites Attract Competition http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8735.0.html SERIES: This card is meant to synergize with Zenith (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8724.0.html).

[jmizzle7]

I'm pretty sure you are misunderstanding the mechanics of shields. Damage reduction is not the same as attack reduction. The damage source (attack power) sends a value (damage) to subtract from the opponent's health (damage dealt). If there is a shield like, say, Solar Buckler that reduces damage by 1, the damage sent is reduced, which also reduces damage dealt. Attack power remains constant.

If the card does exactly what it says it does, then I like it. Of course, all of a sudden a flying Nadir/Zenith deck is nice. Creature control combined with the ability to constantly buff your flying weapons is cool.

[tinkady]

this seems a lot less powerful than zenith...but then again zenith seems OP

[the dictator]

Jmizzle, why talk about flying, they are creatures

[Bloodshadow]

I'm pretty sure you are misunderstanding the mechanics of shields. Damage reduction is not the same as attack reduction. The damage source (attack power) sends a value (damage) to subtract from the opponent's health (damage dealt). If there is a shield like, say, Solar Buckler that reduces damage by 1, the damage sent is reduced, which also reduces damage dealt. Attack power remains constant.

If the card does exactly what it says it does, then I like it. Of course, all of a sudden a flying Nadir/Zenith deck is nice. Creature control combined with the ability to constantly buff your flying weapons is cool.

This card is both immune to ATK reduction and damage reduction. Since Zenith has pseudo-immortality, I want Nadir to mirror its effect and have pseudo-momentum. To me, ATK is the value that gets dealt as damage to my opponent. If the damage is reduced, then the ATK is reduced, albeit temporarily.

[tyranim]

holy crap, this is a wicked combo. much approved

[Bloodshadow]

And don't forget that this works very well with Gargoyle.

[Harikaze]

Hmm wow yeah QUADRUPLE BASILISK BLOOD XD jk
meh this actually pretty good XD.

[Higurashi]

Yeah, I'd say this looks good. It's pretty balanced. Only thing that hits me is that I can't tell at all what kind of creature that's supposed to be. It's just an art concept that's made into a creature for some reason, but I couldn't even begin to guess its origins, how it lives or what it does with itself. Same goes for Zenith, of course.

[Bloodshadow]

Yeah, I'd say this looks good. It's pretty balanced. Only thing that hits me is that I can't tell at all what kind of creature that's supposed to be. It's just an art concept that's made into a creature for some reason, but I couldn't even begin to guess its origins, how it lives or what it does with itself. Same goes for Zenith, of course.

Well, it has a wing

Just assume it's a spirit of darkness or something...