Zenith | Zenith

[Bloodshadow]

Zenith | Zenith

This card is my entry to the Opposites Attract card design contest. The previous version of this card did not satisfy the contest criteria, so I made a second version that is significantly changed. That's why I'm starting a new thread.

NAME: Zenith ELEMENT: Light COST: 6 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2|5 ABILITY: Zenith's HP cannot be reduced.   : Pacify Target creature gains -3/+3.	NAME: Zenith ELEMENT: Light COST: 5 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2|5 ABILITY: Zenith's HP cannot be reduced.   : Pacify Target creature gains -3/+3.

ART: Bloodshadow IDEA: Bloodshadow NOTES: Some of you may recognize the artwork. Yes, it is the light half of my Duality picture. Zenith's HP cannot be decreased in any way. Other effects such as Paradox, Devour and Rewind can still affect Zenith. Zenith is still targetable, it just cannot be damaged; Fire Bolt can still target it but no damage will be done. This is like a pseudo-immortality, and it is passive. The passive ability is removed if Gravity Pull is cast on it. This is to prevent you from being invincible. This card cannot reduce a creature's ATK to below zero. If the ATK is already negative, then the ATK-reducing would have no effect. - Winner of the Opposites Attract Competition http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8735.0.html SERIES: This card is meant to synergize with Nadir (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8725.0.html).

[ratcharmer]

I like having pacifism type creature control in

Not entirely sure what you mean by hp can't be reduced though. How would that work with things like rage potion?

[jmizzle7]

I like having pacifism type creature control in

Not entirely sure what you mean by hp can't be reduced though. How would that work with things like rage potion?

Exactly how you think it would. +5|+0

[guy_fawkes]

the idea is nice, but you can't create a creature that can only be destroyed by devour...
a more balanced version without the immortal ability would be nice

[tinkady]

i like the card...it just seems kinda OP. also its an unnecessary buff to Otys

[the dictator]

Well, I don't think it is that OP, because we have immortal creatures too, and they do well.

But, I think this should be an 'active' abilitiy, so I can be lobotomized (but that would mean having 2 'active' abilities).

[Bloodshadow]

the idea is nice, but you can't create a creature that can only be destroyed by devour...
a more balanced version without the immortal ability would be nice

Rewind. Paradox. Mutation. Freeze. Basilisk Blood. There are plenty of ways to deal with this creature.

[guy_fawkes]

if i quintessence it what ways are there to deal with it?

= unremovable creature

[Bloodshadow]

if i quintessence it what ways are there to deal with it?

= unremovable creature

Procrastination, Ice Shield.

[guy_fawkes]

Bloodshadow, the point is not saying that the card is not OP because it can be delayed 1 or 4 turns by 2 cards in the WHOLE set of cards available in the game,
the point here is : WHY should it be so POWERFUL?

wouldn't you put it in your deck if it was EXACTLY like this but without the immortal ability?
i would, because it's a nice card! it has an interesting mechanic.

if you let create a card so powerful, you are forced to make the other cards as powerful as well, and i think it's frustrating seeing your opponent playing a card you cannot remove in any way that can cripple your creature's attacks with just 2 white quanta

also if i use its ability on itself before quintessencing it, i made it immune to the last two cards you mentioned...

[Bloodshadow]

You know why I can't remove the pseudo-immortality? Because if I do that, then it would not synergize with Nadir anymore! That was the entire point of the Opposites Attract contest, and I can't remove that no matter what.

Besides, what can you do about a quinted Otyugh? What can you do about a protected Pulverizer? There are lots of other similar situations in game that are very hard to deal with.

[harakirinosaru]

Bloodshadow, the point is not saying that the card is not OP because it can be delayed 1 or 4 turns by 2 cards in the WHOLE set of cards available in the game,
the point here is : WHY should it be so POWERFUL?

wouldn't you put it in your deck if it was EXACTLY like this but without the immortal ability?
i would, because it's a nice card! it has an interesting mechanic.

if you let create a card so powerful, you are forced to make the other cards as powerful as well, and i think it's frustrating seeing your opponent playing a card you cannot remove in any way that can cripple your creature's attacks with just 2 white quanta

also if i use its ability on itself before quintessencing it, i made it immune to the last two cards you mentioned...

Basilisk Blood: 6 turn freeze
Freeze/Congeal: 3/4 turn freeze
Devour: Removal
Reverse Time: Removal
Ice Shield: 3 turn freeze
Mutation: Removal
Paradox: Combo removal

There plenty of ways to get rid of this card. All upgraded shields except for 4 remove it's attacking ability, Lobotomizer/Flayer/Ultharid would remove the pacify effect, and another Zenith would make it useless in the attacking spectrum as well.

also if i use its ability on itself before quintessencing it, i made it immune to the last two cards you mentioned...

Same thing happens if you cast momentum on it. Your argument is weak.

Gravity Pull means you win, though.