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Re: Cauldron | Superior Cauldron https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18820.msg240059#msg240059
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2011, 03:14:19 am »
Failure rate
20%|10%

Reason:
At 20% failure rate each Cauldron will create about 5 spells.
At 10% failure rate each Cauldron will create about 10 spells.
i'm a little confused about this. if you sacrifice one creature, shouldn't you get one spell?
and also- should there be a thing about higher costing creatures giving specific spells?
The average number of spells generated before the mishap destroys the Cauldron is

100%/Failure rate
(More accurately: R=1-Failure rate. Total estimated is 1/(1-R))

Edit: I misread the failure effect. It is now that many successes before a failure
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2011, 03:18:08 am »
failure doesnt destroy the cauldron, it just doesnt give you a spell and you lose a creature for nothing (except death effects :death :death :death) but i think it should be 20%|15%

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Re: Cauldron | Superior Cauldron https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18820.msg240065#msg240065
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2011, 03:19:52 am »
but i think it should be 20%|15%
i agree
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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2011, 03:39:23 am »
I support the 20%/15% motion.

I think this may be an interesting if iffy way to get upped spells without upped cards outside of this. I like.

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Re: Cauldron | Superior Cauldron https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18820.msg240538#msg240538
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2011, 09:58:34 pm »
Poll plz!  We have so many "I agrees" here that could be all compresed into one simple poll.

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Re: Cauldron | Superior Cauldron https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18820.msg240676#msg240676
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2011, 12:37:56 am »
Compression isn't good for business :)

I think I'm gonna run with a 20% / 10% failure rate, thanks for the input guys, and as of right now an even chance of any spell being spawned.

@Rutarete I like the idea of the more valuable the creature you sacrifice, the more valuable the resulting spell, but that changes the mechanic of this one quite a bit, perhaps a new card altogether.

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Re: Cauldron | Superior Cauldron https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18820.msg240920#msg240920
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2011, 11:35:01 am »
I feel that this should be an actual element. Not sure which though.
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Re: Cauldron | Superior Cauldron https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18820.msg241006#msg241006
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2011, 03:54:00 pm »
I disagree , while this could be added to Aether due to the card generation theme, the evenness of this effect and versatility (although at the cost of reliability) make this an ideal Other card mechanically. Thematically it has an effect that varies to fit the element that is inputed into it (cast more same element spells) which is one of the three kinds of thematical fits for other. (The other two are effects that fit nowhere and effects that fit everywhere)
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Re: Cauldron | Superior Cauldron https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18820.msg241388#msg241388
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2011, 02:09:20 am »
Thanks for the input guys :)

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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2011, 02:43:09 am »
my feeling on this is that it falls somewhere between :entropy and :aether, not sure why.
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Re: Cauldron | Superior Cauldron https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18820.msg241419#msg241419
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2011, 02:56:49 am »
my feeling on this is that it falls somewhere between :entropy and :aether, not sure why.
Cause it involves a kinda analog of alchemy, which is closest to aether here, and the spell produced is random other than element?

Regardless, I agree.

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Re: Cauldron | Superior Cauldron https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18820.msg241442#msg241442
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2011, 03:48:08 am »
my feeling on this is that it falls somewhere between :entropy and :aether, not sure why.
Cause it involves a kinda analog of alchemy, which is closest to aether here, and the spell produced is random other than element?

Regardless, I agree.
while i agree with that, i feel more strongly that it should stay as Other because it's neutral to all elements. having it be  :entropy or  :aether or any other specific element makes me think of it as biased
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