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ScytherLoL

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Religion Series: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3486.msg30702#msg30702
« on: February 28, 2010, 11:29:58 pm »
Number 8 in the mix so far.

So this is Earth and so far is doing an interesting thing. It has been designed to allow your Earth Creatures to survive poison for a turn or indefinately if you keep playing Earth Song. The ability add to Gnome Rider is such that it can be a useful creature spam if you want to use it as that.

So far as testing goes that hasn't been done to a huge extent it fills what I believe the bill to be but you will have to decide and advise on your own basis.

These cards as mentioned before are uber-rare, you may have only one in play at any one time (this includes any other Gods you may have One God only) and they cannot be brought extra...

Ok.

Earths Keeper/Earths Gaurdian

Others in the series:

Water: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3406.0.html
Fire: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2783.0.html
Death: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2870.0
Life: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2873.0
Light: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2910.0.html
Other: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2953.0.html
Time: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3432.0.html

Thankyou for your honest opinion and I am compiling everyones comments into the reproduction of each of these cards in order to make them work.

Scyther

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Re: Religion Series: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3486.msg30706#msg30706
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2010, 11:34:21 pm »
Ah. So, if I understand correctly, do these buffs revert back after the end of the opponent's turn? Then, it's a fine card - not too overpowered, but still very useful.

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Re: Religion Series: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3486.msg30714#msg30714
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2010, 11:42:41 pm »
Yes the buffs from Earth Song are only temporary and only last until the other players next turn begins. This way the creatures can be removed through the other players RoF etc, without worrying about the buffs.

The only continous is Gnome Rider but this does not stack in anyway and only happens once (like Eclipse).

Thankyou

Scyther

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Re: Religion Series: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3486.msg30742#msg30742
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2010, 12:12:52 am »
Do only gnome riders get the buff or do gemfinders get it too?

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Re: Religion Series: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3486.msg30743#msg30743
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2010, 12:14:52 am »
Sorry I should have made that clear, Gemfinders also get the buff.

Thanks for noticing.

Scyther

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Re: Religion Series: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3486.msg30745#msg30745
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2010, 12:15:54 am »
Name suggestions:
Callarduran Smoothhands - Gnomish god of Earth according to Dungeons and Dragons
Garl Glitterhold - Head Gnomish god according to Dungeons and Dragons

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Re: Religion Series: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3486.msg30749#msg30749
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2010, 12:19:27 am »
Oh nice names.. thanks hadn't really thought of good names yet more looking at the card ideas but thankyou for helping.

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Re: Religion Series: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3486.msg30752#msg30752
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2010, 12:27:08 am »
Sure thing.

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Re: Religion Series: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3486.msg30950#msg30950
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2010, 07:34:24 am »

Is the Elite Version supposed to be "Guardian" or "Gaurdian" ?

How will the bonus interact with Creatures that then become burrowed? Currently the Calculator for buffs on creatures will add the value then be halved due to burrow then remove the full buff value from the halved current stat.

Eg. Antlion

Ex1
Base - (2|3)
Add Song - (5|6)
Burrow - (2|6)
Song Ends - (-1|3)
Unburrow - (-2|3)

Ex2
Base - (2|3)
Burrow - (1|3)
Add Song - (4|6)
Unburrow - (8|3)
Song Ends - (5|3)



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Re: Religion Series: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3486.msg30978#msg30978
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2010, 11:17:07 am »
How you do Ex2 in only one turn?

And I think that Ex1 can be fixed. Not sure how.

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Re: Religion Series: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3486.msg30986#msg30986
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 12:28:39 pm »
How you do Ex2 in only one turn?

And I think that Ex1 can be fixed. Not sure how.
Both are over 2 turns.
In Ex1 you Unburrow on the turn after the song ends.
In Ex2 you Burrow before the turn the song is used.

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Re: Religion Series: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3486.msg30991#msg30991
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 12:51:49 pm »
The question to ask is does this target burrowed creatures at all?

In my opinion yes but that is up for debate both your examples work in theory.

EX 1 I agree with and that is proably the most likely outcome as it stands. In EX 2 I would have to say that the card desn;t work on burrowed creatures but it depends on the coding. When you use Nightfall/Eclipse in a burrowed Devourer/Pest they are not effected by the halve option that graboids/shriekers/antlions are. SO when you unburrow them they stay at the same attack they went in as. Therefore this option most likely is already coded in just would need some changes made to the Earth Creatures to that affect.

As to spelling give me a break I am typing through limited vision as it is and I've covered that if you read the series properly.

SO to sum:

Eg. Antlion

Ex1
Base - (2|3)
Add Song - (5|6)
Burrow - (2|6)
Song Ends - (1|3) Make it so it has the lower limit set at X (X being normal Attack/2)
Unburrow - (2|3)

Ex2
Base - (2|3)
Burrow - (1|3)
Add Song - (4|6)
Unburrow - (5|6) (Earth Song adds to the attack strength of Normal Creature ie reverts to X when unburrowed where x is the attack of the creature in that normal position)
Song Ends - (2|3)

OK so that works but at a stretch. A couple of ways to get around this:

 1. You could implement that due to the Earth Songs pull on Earth Creatures no other abilities can be used once Earth Song is used. In this example you would be unable to burrow/unburrow or do anything else with your creatures including Gemfinder after you had used the Earth Song.
 2. Make the bonus + to their normal attack. ie Attack in normal circumstance at 1 therefore becomes 4, does not get affected by burrows/unburrows etc reverts afterward to 1 and so forth.

Thankyou for the examples they have helped clrify much of the issue around burrow.

Scyther




 

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