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goo/goo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23816.msg303784#msg303784
« on: April 02, 2011, 10:24:05 am »
edit: problems solved.

NAME:
goo
ELEMENT:
other
COST:
1
TYPE:
creature
ATK|HP:
0/1
TEXT:
1: feed
goo gets +1/0 or 0/+1. This skill can be used 5 times per turn.
NAME:
goo
ELEMENT:
other
COST:
1
TYPE:
creature
ATK|HP:
0/1
TEXT:
1:feed
goo gets +1/0 or 0/+1. This skill can be used 7 times per turn.
ART:
harm1983
IDEA:
harm1983
NOTES:
the probability of +1/0 or 0/+1 is 50%/50%
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Re: goo/goo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23816.msg303834#msg303834
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2011, 12:52:34 pm »
It's a nice idea, but i feel that the ability should cost 3, because quantum pillar procuces 3, and while using "other" cards you have the great advantage of a big quantity of quanta.

Re: goo/goo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23816.msg303838#msg303838
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2011, 12:57:35 pm »
I would LOVE to have this card in my  :gravity :death deck. While it can gain large quanities of health/attack, it only gains +1/+0 or +0/+1, which means that it is not completly immune to CC. But like TheManuz wrote, the ability should cost more.

Re: goo/goo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23816.msg303842#msg303842
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2011, 01:16:30 pm »
um... I think it's way OP, because, theoretically, it could be a 0/6 [0/8 for upped]second turn, then be a 5/6[7/8], then a 8/8[A F@#%ING 11/11] on the 4th turn for only 16[22] of ANY QUANTA!! I think that that may be a wee bit op.

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Re: goo/goo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23816.msg303921#msg303921
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2011, 03:34:20 pm »
It's a nice idea, but i feel that the ability should cost 3, because quantum pillar procuces 3, and while using "other" cards you have the great advantage of a big quantity of quanta.
it's indeed an advantage to use any kind quantra but compared too forest spirit and lava golem it should be appropriate.
by those 2 you oly need 1 quantra of the right colour,while with goo you need to use the skill 4 times. That's 4 quantra.

um... I think it's way OP, because, theoretically, it could be a 0/6 [0/8 for upped]second turn, then be a 5/6[7/8], then a 8/8[A F@#%ING 11/11] on the 4th turn for only 16[22] of ANY QUANTA!! I think that that may be a wee bit op.
how many times of using the skill do you had in mind?

maybe it's a good idea to start a poll to votes if it's overpowerd or not.
i'm not really a forumpro, so could someone help me with this?

Re: goo/goo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23816.msg303924#msg303924
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2011, 03:51:54 pm »
Seems a little Entropic, but I love the idea nevertheless! (:

I think the ability pricing is appropriate considering the other growers, Lava Golem attains a net of +4 to its stats for 1 off element price and Fire Spirit attains a +2 for 1 same elemental price, so we can consider that Goo attains +5 stats for approximately 2 quanta, random stats at that!

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Re: goo/goo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23816.msg303925#msg303925
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2011, 03:57:35 pm »
Entropy, definitely. We'll assume that this ability is a mix between Grow and Ablaze. Perhaps an Entropy creature, that uses Gravity to grow? Cost of 2, ability cost of 2 :gravity?
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Re: goo/goo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23816.msg303927#msg303927
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2011, 04:04:21 pm »
It can get a larger bonus each turn than any current 'Growth' creature, even the unupgraded one.  It can also be cast on turn 1 easily, even unupgraded.  It can also fit into just about any deck.  These things should not all go together.

The cost is relatively low when using random quanta, there is a good chance it won't take crucial quanta and you would try to cast necessary things before using the ability.  It's easy to drop a Nova or Supernova and have plenty of quanta to spend on this guy (or even two of this guy).  Comparatively, an Immolation requires another creature to be sacrificed if you want to rush out an early Lava Golem.  The same goes for the cost of the ability - Lava Golem has strict requirements, while this does not, making it instantly better.

Other than that, a creature with 'Growth' ability as the focus should not really be in the 'Other' category.  Entropy/Gravity could work.  To make it more entropic and less OP, maybe change the ability to something like:

2 :gravity : This creature gets +4|+0 or +0|+4 at random.

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Re: goo/goo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23816.msg303947#msg303947
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2011, 05:10:04 pm »
Seems a little Entropic,
Entropy, definitely.
entropy it will be



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Re: goo/goo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23816.msg304025#msg304025
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Re: goo/goo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23816.msg304052#msg304052
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2011, 07:09:04 pm »
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Re: goo/goo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23816.msg304064#msg304064
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2011, 07:16:44 pm »
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