Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

[Gocubbies1212]

Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting
Salvaging
2 x Dune Scorpion
4 x Time Pendulum
5 x Bone Pillar
1 x Chrysaora
2 x Dusk Mantle
2 x Shrieker
2 x Earthquake
Discarding
3 x Enchant Artifact
6 x Phase Spider
6 x Poison
2 x Quintessence
1 x Arsenic
7 x Lightning
5 x Immortal
2 x Phase Dragon
2 x Holy Light
4 x Lobotomizer
5 x Parallel Universe
3 x Emerald Shield
4 x Horned Frog
3 x Deflagration
2 x Fire Spirit
1 x Burning Pillar
5 x Aether Pillar
11 x Aether Pendulum
Penalties
none
Converting
1 x Shrieker into 1 x Aether Pillar
4 x wyrm into 4 x Aether Pillar
3 x firebolt into 3 x Aether Pendulum
2 x Fahrenheit into 2 x Aether Pendulum
1 x Deflagration into 1 x Aether Pendulum
1 x Shrieker into 1 x Aether Pendulum

Comments?  Suggestions?  Questions?

[Gocubbies1212]

Links to Round 2 decks:

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15109.0.html   Dragoon1140  (Win)
Salvage:  2 x Dune Scorpion  and  4 x Time Pendulum

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15146.0.html   Mrpaper  (Win)
Salvage:  5 x Bone Pillar  and  1 x Chrsaora

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15226.0.html   Thraexis11  (Win)
Salvage:  2 x Dusk Mantle  and  2 x Shrieker  and  2 x Earthquake

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15087.0.html   Gocubbies1212  (Loss)
Discard:  3 x Enchant Artifact  and  3 x Phase Spider  and  6 x Aether Pendulum

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15170.0.html   Toimu13  (Loss)
Discard:  6 x Poison  and  2 x Quintessence  and  1 x Arsenic  and  3 x Lightning

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15171.0.html   Artagas  (Loss)
Discard:  5 x Immortal  and  2 x Dragon  and  2 x Holy Light  and  3 x Phase Spider

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15179.0.html   Boingo  (Loss)
Discard:  4 x Lobotomizer  and  5 x Parallel Universe  and  3 x Aether Pillar

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15182.0.html   Tinkady  (Loss)
Discard:  3 x Emerald Shield  and  4 x Horned Frog  and  4 x Lightning  and 1 x Aether Pendulum

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15245.0.html   ICB's deck, I subbed  (Loss)
Discard:  3 x Deflagration  and  2 x Fire Spirit  and  4 x Aether Pendulum  and  1 x Burning Pillar  and  2 x Aether Pillar

[Toimu13]

Salvaging

4.1. WINNING A BATTLE
After each win, the team can salvage cards from the opponent. Winning team picks 6 cards from the deck posted by the losing player, which will be added to their Vault. These cards become part of the Vault and can be later used by anyone on that team. Salvaged cards are always unupped even if the original card is upped. Maximum card amount of 18 doesn't apply to salvaged cards.

When you salvage cards, you are not really taking cards from the opponent, you are merely taking a copy of that card and putting it into your Vault. In Elements terms, you are using Parallel Universe on those cards.

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Discarding

4.2. LOSING A BATTLE
When a team loses a battle, they have to discard cards. The numbers of cards discarded is determined by the round number. The further the event goes, the more cards are discarded.

    ROUND 1: discard 6
    ROUND 2: discard 12
    ROUND 3: discard 18
    ROUND 4: discard 24
    ROUND 5: discard 30
    ROUND 6: discard 30
    ROUND 7: discard 30
    etc.

Cards that are left in the deck after discarding, are returned back to Vault.

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[Boingo]

No great suggestions other than I agree with keeping as many pillars/pendula as possible.  Are we allowed to discard salvage cards?

[Dragoon1140]

Are we allowed to discard salvage cards?

As far as I know, yes.

[Gocubbies1212]

Are we allowed to discard salvage cards?

As far as I know, yes.

but the cards we discard have to be in a deck we lost with.

[Dragoon1140]

but the cards we discard have to be in a deck we lost with.

^  This.

I was thinking about penalties, not discarding.   

[Gocubbies1212]

but the cards we discard have to be in a deck we lost with.

^  This.

I was thinking about penalties, not discarding.   

oh, we can do that with penalties

[thraexis11]

I agree with everything . Maybe take some freeze cards  from papers opponent ? I think it could be usefull. But then again , we have lightnings- I am not sure .

[Gocubbies1212]

I agree with everything . Maybe take some freeze cards  from papers opponent ? I think it could be usefull. But then again , we have lightnings- I am not sure .

i think we should use our salvaging on things like creatures and pillars/pends and other important things...  lightning easilly takes car of most creatures...  Freeze isnt really worth it in my opinion...  unless you have a specific deck you want to use?

[Toimu13]

Salvaging

4.1. WINNING A BATTLE
After each win, the team can salvage cards from the opponent. Winning team picks 6 cards from the deck posted by the losing player, which will be added to their Vault. These cards become part of the Vault and can be later used by anyone on that team. Salvaged cards are always unupped even if the original card is upped. Maximum card amount of 18 doesn't apply to salvaged cards.

When you salvage cards, you are not really taking cards from the opponent, you are merely taking a copy of that card and putting it into your Vault. In Elements terms, you are using Parallel Universe on those cards.

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5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5li 5li 5rj 5rj 5ro 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7

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Discarding

4.2. LOSING A BATTLE
When a team loses a battle, they have to discard cards. The numbers of cards discarded is determined by the round number. The further the event goes, the more cards are discarded.

    ROUND 1: discard 6
    ROUND 2: discard 12
    ROUND 3: discard 18
    ROUND 4: discard 24
    ROUND 5: discard 30
    ROUND 6: discard 30
    ROUND 7: discard 30
    etc.

Cards that are left in the deck after discarding, are returned back to Vault.

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592 592 592 593 593 593 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 620 620 620 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a

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5oi 5oi 5oi 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61u 61u 61u 61u

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There are all the decks we have to Discard from, and can Salvage from.

[mrpaper]

We could "cheat" a bit in discarding pillars and then converting some cards we won in pillars so we don't lose cards we need in most aether decks (dragons, quint, shield, lightning)