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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1012703#msg1012703
« Reply #216 on: November 03, 2012, 02:42:35 pm »
The problem I find with this card is that you MUST have  :aether to play it, which takes out the whole most-decks-can-use-it thing. Maybe allow it to buff any creature, but only quinted creatures getspell damage and +4 while any non-quinted creatures simply get +2?
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1012717#msg1012717
« Reply #217 on: November 03, 2012, 04:22:12 pm »
The problem I find with this card is that you MUST have  :aether to play it, which takes out the whole most-decks-can-use-it thing. Maybe allow it to buff any creature, but only quinted creatures getspell damage and +4 while any non-quinted creatures simply get +2?

Actually I like your idea. It could see use in decks that want to use doubling cards (like PU, Deja Vu or Dive-creatures), but without a second element.
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1012790#msg1012790
« Reply #218 on: November 03, 2012, 10:43:16 pm »
The problem I find with this card is that you MUST have  :aether to play it, which takes out the whole most-decks-can-use-it thing. Maybe allow it to buff any creature, but only quinted creatures getspell damage and +4 while any non-quinted creatures simply get +2?

Actually I like your idea. It could see use in decks that want to use doubling cards (like PU, Deja Vu or Dive-creatures), but without a second element.

Hmmm... I haven't thought about that, but what I really want is to make  :aether usage not strictly necessary.
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1012881#msg1012881
« Reply #219 on: November 04, 2012, 06:21:17 am »
The problem I find with this card is that you MUST have  :aether to play it, which takes out the whole most-decks-can-use-it thing. Maybe allow it to buff any creature, but only quinted creatures getspell damage and +4 while any non-quinted creatures simply get +2?

Actually I like your idea. It could see use in decks that want to use doubling cards (like PU, Deja Vu or Dive-creatures), but without a second element.

Hmmm... I haven't thought about that, but what I really want is to make  :aether usage not strictly necessary.

How about use on a non-quint creature only gives it spell damage? Without the +4 atk
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1012933#msg1012933
« Reply #220 on: November 04, 2012, 02:49:04 pm »
The problem I find with this card is that you MUST have  :aether to play it, which takes out the whole most-decks-can-use-it thing. Maybe allow it to buff any creature, but only quinted creatures getspell damage and +4 while any non-quinted creatures simply get +2?

Actually I like your idea. It could see use in decks that want to use doubling cards (like PU, Deja Vu or Dive-creatures), but without a second element.

Hmmm... I haven't thought about that, but what I really want is to make  :aether usage not strictly necessary.

How about use on a non-quint creature only gives it spell damage? Without the +4 atk

No. Momentum would be useless.
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1012954#msg1012954
« Reply #221 on: November 04, 2012, 04:58:09 pm »
The problem I find with this card is that you MUST have  :aether to play it, which takes out the whole most-decks-can-use-it thing. Maybe allow it to buff any creature, but only quinted creatures getspell damage and +4 while any non-quinted creatures simply get +2?

Actually I like your idea. It could see use in decks that want to use doubling cards (like PU, Deja Vu or Dive-creatures), but without a second element.

Hmmm... I haven't thought about that, but what I really want is to make  :aether usage not strictly necessary.

How about use on a non-quint creature only gives it spell damage? Without the +4 atk

No. Momentum would be useless.
Actually, I think it's a good idea for the following reasons:
-it's called Shard of Wisdom, and spell damage is more appropriate to the wisdom theme than the buff.
-more decks using spell damage will rise (it would increase the meta)
-and so it would buff reflecting shields, increasing its use.
-momentum would still be more powerful, since it cannot be reflected, only lobotomized. Also, shard of wisdom costs 3|1 :underworld, momentum costs 2|1 :gravity. Since SoW wouldn't grant a buff for non-quinted creatures (while momentum always give a buff), momentum still maintain its use. It's better when you have access to gravity quanta and don't use immortal/quinted creatures.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1012964#msg1012964
« Reply #222 on: November 04, 2012, 06:24:30 pm »
The problem I find with this card is that you MUST have  :aether to play it, which takes out the whole most-decks-can-use-it thing. Maybe allow it to buff any creature, but only quinted creatures getspell damage and +4 while any non-quinted creatures simply get +2?

Actually I like your idea. It could see use in decks that want to use doubling cards (like PU, Deja Vu or Dive-creatures), but without a second element.

Ah. Somehow forgot momentum gives +1/+1.

Hmmm... I haven't thought about that, but what I really want is to make  :aether usage not strictly necessary.

How about use on a non-quint creature only gives it spell damage? Without the +4 atk

No. Momentum would be useless.
Actually, I think it's a good idea for the following reasons:
-it's called Shard of Wisdom, and spell damage is more appropriate to the wisdom theme than the buff.
-more decks using spell damage will rise (it would increase the meta)
-and so it would buff reflecting shields, increasing its use.
-momentum would still be more powerful, since it cannot be reflected, only lobotomized. Also, shard of wisdom costs 3|1 :underworld, momentum costs 2|1 :gravity. Since SoW wouldn't grant a buff for non-quinted creatures (while momentum always give a buff), momentum still maintain its use. It's better when you have access to gravity quanta and don't use immortal/quinted creatures.
Ah. Forgot momentum costs less and gives +1/+1 lol.
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1013109#msg1013109
« Reply #223 on: November 05, 2012, 01:30:57 am »
Also, as of note.  If SoW doesn't require a quinted creature, it makes the mirror shield so much stronger.  It's basically the same as Pu-ing the opponents creature and then killing (2 card combo), but for 2 :light+1 :rainbow
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1013257#msg1013257
« Reply #224 on: November 05, 2012, 10:44:08 am »
Also, as of note.  If SoW doesn't require a quinted creature, it makes the mirror shield so much stronger.  It's basically the same as Pu-ing the opponents creature and then killing (2 card combo), but for 2 :light+1 :rainbow.
But if they're not quinted, i bet you can lobotomize spell damage. So it's powerful but not op.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1013274#msg1013274
« Reply #225 on: November 05, 2012, 01:20:21 pm »
Also, as of note.  If SoW doesn't require a quinted creature, it makes the mirror shield so much stronger.  It's basically the same as Pu-ing the opponents creature and then killing (2 card combo), but for 2 :light+1 :rainbow.

I didn't think about the possibility of using it on Opp. Creatures when I made my suggestion. Now it reminds me of another thread here, before the card was revised, anyway.
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1018693#msg1018693
« Reply #226 on: November 30, 2012, 05:27:43 pm »
"Venom" on hit ability isn't used when SoWed. (ie flying quinted arsenics on which you use shard of wisdom won't deal anymore poison counters. Might want to check for other on hit abilities).
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1018702#msg1018702
« Reply #227 on: November 30, 2012, 06:31:57 pm »
Vampiric and neurotoxin creatures with SoW won't proc their abilities, either.  Not sure about anything else.

 

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