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Spite | Spite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26223.msg333119#msg333119
« on: May 13, 2011, 11:47:31 pm »
NAME:
Spite
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
2 :death
TYPE:
Permanent - Weapon
ATK|HP:
3|0 when flying.
TEXT:
Weapon: deal 3 damage at the end of every turn.  Trigger death effects when opponent is hit.
NAME:
Spite
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
1 :death
TYPE:
Permanent - Weapon
ATK|HP:
3|0 when flying.
TEXT:
Weapon: deal 3 damage at the end of every turn.  Trigger death effects when opponent is hit.
ART:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dagger.png
(Image heavily modified by me)
IDEA:
johannhowitzer
NOTES:
The concept behind this is that stabbing causes the opposing player to die, just for a moment.

Only triggers a death if it connects - anything that would block Discord blocks this.  That includes Diamond Shield.

Health is not a typo; if this weapon is flown, it will die upon attacking unless buffed.  This will cause two death effects to trigger - one for the weapon's attack, and one for the weapon's death.
SERIES:
New Elemental Weapons (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26231.0.html)
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This is meant to be a flexible weapon option for Death elementals who do not wish to rely on poison, but instead grow their Bone Walls, Vultures, etc.  Due to the fact that poor kitty would become obsolete rather quickly, this is only renewable in the weapon slot or with a buff when flying.  On the other hand, you could fly it to get an extra death effect...

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Re: Spite | Spite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26223.msg333120#msg333120
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 11:49:13 pm »
Adrenaline!

Re: Spite | Spite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26223.msg333121#msg333121
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2011, 11:50:19 pm »
Only if you buff its health too.  Adrenaline can't target the weapon slot, and this weapon dies when flown.

Is -1 health overkill?  Would 0 be fine?

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Re: Spite | Spite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26223.msg333193#msg333193
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2011, 02:18:26 am »
Only if you buff its health too.  Adrenaline can't target the weapon slot, and this weapon dies when flown.

Is -1 health overkill?  Would 0 be fine?

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0 hp is fine if you want it to die at the end of the turn (more triggers) unless buffed.
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Re: Spite | Spite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26223.msg333236#msg333236
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2011, 03:38:40 am »
i think its effects aren't that extremely powerful enough to warrant it dying when flown. although it does go with the theme.
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Re: Spite | Spite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26223.msg333293#msg333293
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2011, 05:26:40 am »
Changed to 3|0 when flying... thankfully I didn't need to edit the art for that.  I guess the Death/Darkness/Air trio required to Nightfall-fly these isn't too powerful, and 3|0 allows a nifty trio with Momentum too, since the effect can normally be stopped by shields.

This dies when flown because it's supposed to be a limited way for Death to supply its own death effects, not a replacement for the kitty.

Re: Spite | Spite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26223.msg333298#msg333298
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2011, 05:35:16 am »
It is an amazing idea, but if this were to be in the game;

A) Would it be rare?
B) How much would it cost, it seems good in thr 60-80's considering the effect

The only problem is people would complain about how "Majorly OP" it would be, but I love it and I would love this card!  ;D

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Re: Spite | Spite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26223.msg333302#msg333302
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2011, 05:40:17 am »
I just noticed: The casting cost is not equal! :o. This is a problem for all elemental weapons cost the same unupped as upped.
Edit: This theory has been proven false by Vampire Stiletto|Vampire Dagger -courtesy of Shantu

A) Would it be rare?
B) How much would it cost, it seems good in thr 60-80's considering the effect
C) The only problem is people would complain about how "Majorly OP" it would be.
A) It has the necessary characteristics that it would not be a bad rare. Zanz will decide if it ever enters the game and in what form.
B)  :electrum costs are a function of Casting Costs.
C) People complain about balanced cards being OP already. Nothing new.

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Re: Spite | Spite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26223.msg333343#msg333343
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2011, 08:49:21 am »
I love this weapon. This is something Death needs for certain: it would probably give poor vultures a chance to be useful.

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Re: Spite | Spite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26223.msg333357#msg333357
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2011, 09:10:52 am »
I like it. Cheap, effcient, not too powered.
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Re: Spite | Spite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26223.msg333384#msg333384
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2011, 11:08:39 am »
Quote
I just noticed: The casting cost is not equal! :o. This is a problem for all elemental weapons cost the same unupped as upped.
Well, they do now.  Nothing says that can't change... and the only other option was to have the upped gain some attack, which I didn't want.

Dr. O - all the weapons in my series are intended to be new rares.

Here's a neat thing I didn't plan: if your opponent steals this weapon, you still get the death triggers, he only really steals the weapon damage.  Unless, of course, you're running a Bone Wall.

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Re: Spite | Spite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26223.msg333386#msg333386
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2011, 11:11:44 am »
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I just noticed: The casting cost is not equal! :o. This is a problem for all elemental weapons cost the same unupped as upped.
Well, they do now.  Nothing says that can't change... and the only other option was to have the upped gain some attack, which I didn't want.
Actually, Vampire Stiletto | Vampire Dagger costs 1 :darkness | 2 :darkness.

 

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