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Title: Spite | Spite
Post by: johannhowitzer on May 13, 2011, 11:47:31 pm

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/403/spite.png)	(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/681/spite2.png)
NAME: Spite ELEMENT: Death COST: 2 :death TYPE: Permanent - Weapon ATK|HP: 3|0 when flying. TEXT: Weapon: deal 3 damage at the end of every turn.  Trigger death effects when opponent is hit.	NAME: Spite ELEMENT: Death COST: 1 :death TYPE: Permanent - Weapon ATK|HP: 3|0 when flying. TEXT: Weapon: deal 3 damage at the end of every turn.  Trigger death effects when opponent is hit.

ART: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dagger.png (Image heavily modified by me) IDEA: johannhowitzer NOTES: The concept behind this is that stabbing causes the opposing player to die, just for a moment. Only triggers a death if it connects - anything that would block Discord blocks this.  That includes Diamond Shield. Health is not a typo; if this weapon is flown, it will die upon attacking unless buffed.  This will cause two death effects to trigger - one for the weapon's attack, and one for the weapon's death. SERIES: New Elemental Weapons (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26231.0.html)

That's six elemental weapons!  I officially have my very first SERIES.

This is meant to be a flexible weapon option for Death elementals who do not wish to rely on poison, but instead grow their Bone Walls, Vultures, etc.  Due to the fact that poor kitty would become obsolete rather quickly, this is only renewable in the weapon slot or with a buff when flying.  On the other hand, you could fly it to get an extra death effect...

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: EvaRia on May 13, 2011, 11:49:13 pm

Adrenaline!

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: johannhowitzer on May 13, 2011, 11:50:19 pm

Only if you buff its health too.  Adrenaline can't target the weapon slot, and this weapon dies when flown.

Is -1 health overkill?  Would 0 be fine?

(In other news, I think I'm getting better at making art from stock images... really happy with this one!)

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: OldTrees on May 14, 2011, 02:18:26 am

Quote from: johannhowitzer on May 13, 2011, 11:50:19 pm

Only if you buff its health too.  Adrenaline can't target the weapon slot, and this weapon dies when flown.

Is -1 health overkill?  Would 0 be fine?

(In other news, I think I'm getting better at making art from stock images... really happy with this one!)

0 hp is fine if you want it to die at the end of the turn (more triggers) unless buffed.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: Sevs on May 14, 2011, 03:38:40 am

i think its effects aren't that extremely powerful enough to warrant it dying when flown. although it does go with the theme.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: johannhowitzer on May 14, 2011, 05:26:40 am

Changed to 3|0 when flying... thankfully I didn't need to edit the art for that.  I guess the Death/Darkness/Air trio required to Nightfall-fly these isn't too powerful, and 3|0 allows a nifty trio with Momentum too, since the effect can normally be stopped by shields.

This dies when flown because it's supposed to be a limited way for Death to supply its own death effects, not a replacement for the kitty.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: DrOctaganapus2 on May 14, 2011, 05:35:16 am

It is an amazing idea, but if this were to be in the game;

A) Would it be rare?
B) How much would it cost, it seems good in thr 60-80's considering the effect

The only problem is people would complain about how "Majorly OP" it would be, but I love it and I would love this card!  ;D

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: OldTrees on May 14, 2011, 05:40:17 am

I just noticed: The casting cost is not equal! :o. This is a problem for all elemental weapons cost the same unupped as upped.
Edit: This theory has been proven false by Vampire Stiletto|Vampire Dagger -courtesy of Shantu

Quote from: DrOctaganapus2 on May 14, 2011, 05:35:16 am

A) Would it be rare?
B) How much would it cost, it seems good in thr 60-80's considering the effect
C) The only problem is people would complain about how "Majorly OP" it would be.

A) It has the necessary characteristics that it would not be a bad rare. Zanz will decide if it ever enters the game and in what form.
B)  :electrum costs are a function of Casting Costs.
C) People complain about balanced cards being OP already. Nothing new.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: Shantu on May 14, 2011, 08:49:21 am

I love this weapon. This is something Death needs for certain: it would probably give poor vultures a chance to be useful.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: Jenkar on May 14, 2011, 09:10:52 am

I like it. Cheap, effcient, not too powered.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: johannhowitzer on May 14, 2011, 11:08:39 am

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I just noticed: The casting cost is not equal! :o. This is a problem for all elemental weapons cost the same unupped as upped.

Well, they do now.  Nothing says that can't change... and the only other option was to have the upped gain some attack, which I didn't want.

Dr. O - all the weapons in my series are intended to be new rares.

Here's a neat thing I didn't plan: if your opponent steals this weapon, you still get the death triggers, he only really steals the weapon damage.  Unless, of course, you're running a Bone Wall.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: Shantu on May 14, 2011, 11:11:44 am

Quote from: johannhowitzer on May 14, 2011, 11:08:39 am

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I just noticed: The casting cost is not equal! :o. This is a problem for all elemental weapons cost the same unupped as upped.

Well, they do now.  Nothing says that can't change... and the only other option was to have the upped gain some attack, which I didn't want.

Actually, Vampire Stiletto | Vampire Dagger costs 1 :darkness | 2 :darkness.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: johannhowitzer on May 14, 2011, 11:15:18 am

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Actually, Vampiric Stiletto | Vampiric Dagger costs 1 :darkness | 2 :darkness.

That's odd.  Shantu is right, OT... while the Wiki claims both cost 1, my Daggers in-game show a cost of 2.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: OldTrees on May 14, 2011, 11:20:44 am

Quote from: Shantu on May 14, 2011, 11:11:44 am

Quote from: johannhowitzer on May 14, 2011, 11:08:39 am

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I just noticed: The casting cost is not equal! :o. This is a problem for all elemental weapons cost the same unupped as upped.

Well, they do now.  Nothing says that can't change... and the only other option was to have the upped gain some attack, which I didn't want.

Actually, Vampiric Stiletto | Vampiric Dagger costs 1 :darkness | 2 :darkness.

Nice catch Shantu. I'm embarrassed I missed that. :-[
+39 rep for correctly challenging one of my theories.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: spiritkirinblade on May 14, 2011, 11:50:19 am

Definitely it would be nice to see another way to power those bone walls and vultures, Its a cool card  :D

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: Svenningen on June 01, 2011, 07:09:38 am

Quote from: johannhowitzer on May 14, 2011, 05:26:40 am

Changed to 3|0 when flying... thankfully I didn't need to edit the art for that.  I guess the Death/Darkness/Air trio required to Nightfall-fly these isn't too powerful, and 3|0 allows a nifty trio with Momentum too, since the effect can normally be stopped by shields.

This dies when flown because it's supposed to be a limited way for Death to supply its own death effects, not a replacement for the kitty.

upped flying weps ;)

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: l1ttl3redd3v1l on June 02, 2011, 02:12:53 am

This card would be amazing. It's not overly cheap, but does something useful.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: Jocko on June 02, 2011, 02:21:38 am

Like it, gotta check your other weaps. Hope this makes it beyond crucible.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: Xenocidius on August 05, 2011, 01:27:47 pm

Bump.

Simply a great weapon design - together with Arsenic :death is given two weapons for each side of death - the poison side of it and the death effect side of it.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: johannhowitzer on August 05, 2011, 10:09:49 pm

If you like this, check out Reprisal | Reprisal (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25429.0.html) and vote for it - among the six weapons I've designed, that one's my favorite, and the most flexible!  Winter would be a close second.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: Xenocidius on August 06, 2011, 01:45:18 am

Oh yes, I remember seeing that one a while ago. One of my favourites as well. Voted for both.

Title: Re: Spite | Spite
Post by: Jocko on September 07, 2011, 10:43:56 pm

Yeah, reprisal is my favourite too.