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Gracious Arsenics Flying Out of Phase https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8948.msg105148#msg105148
« on: July 01, 2010, 04:09:22 am »
This was my first attempt at a flying arsenic deck: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8506.0.html

The deck was fun to play, but had a few issues dealing with rush decks so I tried to think up a slightly different strategy.  In place of the SoD/miracle combo I instead opted for a SoG phase shield combo.  Im my testing, the deck was much more successful against rush decks and if you could chain phase shields with SoG out EM's were a definate possibility.  I think I EM'd about 60% of the matches I tested.  The deck could be a bit low on quanta, but I didn't have many problems in testing

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Re: Gracious Arsenics Flying Out of Phase https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8948.msg105597#msg105597
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2010, 03:33:25 pm »
Nice deck, but, personally, I don't like Flying Weapon decks because they are so easily countered. You should try flying Glories with SoGs, SoDs, Miracle, etc. See how it works.

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Re: Gracious Arsenics Flying Out of Phase https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8948.msg105599#msg105599
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2010, 03:37:42 pm »
throw some quints in? honestly, you don't have many attack, and if the arsenic dies, you'll have a way longer match

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Re: Gracious Arsenics Flying Out of Phase https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8948.msg107980#msg107980
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2010, 12:02:36 am »
throw some quints in? honestly, you don't have many attack, and if the arsenic dies, you'll have a way longer match
Arsenic have 7 hp so they are pretty hardy; I don't think quints are needed.  The deadly poison count for 18 poison counters alone, so they are equally as much a damage source here if not more.

As to a longer match, with 4 SoG and 4 Phase shield I can survive quite a long time unless they are packing heavy perm control. This deck can seriously shutdown and heal back to EM against rush decks on a good draw.  I EM about 60% versus AI3 with this deck.  In PvP I have shutdown both life rush and speedbow with relative ease.  As long as the opponent isn't packing a bunch of SoG you can generally out sall them.

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Re: Gracious Arsenics Flying Out of Phase https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8948.msg108162#msg108162
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2010, 06:01:39 am »
I've been gone for like a month, and every starts getting all silly with the deck names.

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Re: Gracious Arsenics Flying Out of Phase https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8948.msg108224#msg108224
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2010, 09:58:10 am »
I've been gone for like a month, and every starts getting all silly with the deck names.

... no comments on that. xD (though the name could improve.)

throw some quints in? honestly, you don't have many attack, and if the arsenic dies, you'll have a way longer match
Arsenic have 7 hp so they are pretty hardy; I don't think quints are needed.  The deadly poison count for 18 poison counters alone, so they are equally as much a damage source here if not more.

As to a longer match, with 4 SoG and 4 Phase shield I can survive quite a long time unless they are packing heavy perm control. This deck can seriously shutdown and heal back to EM against rush decks on a good draw.  I EM about 60% versus AI3 with this deck.  In PvP I have shutdown both life rush and speedbow with relative ease.  As long as the opponent isn't packing a bunch of SoG you can generally out sall them.
well... that is true, their Hp makes them hardy enough to survive 2 rofs... okay, forget the quints.

Well, congrats on making the deck xD. the only problem I see is against mono-aether, maybe shrieker rush, and decks with purify. or decks that stall.

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Re: Gracious Arsenics Flying Out of Phase https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8948.msg108669#msg108669
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 01:13:28 am »
i've tried it out on trainer, and although I've EM all lvls 5's and had half my life left when I won against FGs (went 2-3 having to have to abandon 2 of those loses) it takes foreverrrrrrr to put out those poisons and arsenics with only 3 towers, and it needs more shields for longer battles

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Re: Gracious Arsenics Flying Out of Phase https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8948.msg113550#msg113550
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2010, 04:20:27 pm »
i've tried it out on trainer, and although I've EM all lvls 5's and had half my life left when I won against FGs (went 2-3 having to have to abandon 2 of those loses) it takes foreverrrrrrr to put out those poisons and arsenics with only 3 towers, and it needs more shields for longer battles
Interesting.  For a fun PvP deck designed around an arsenic stall, a 40% fg win rate is quite extraordinary (although from a small sample).  I knew it EM'd AI3 at a high rate, but hadn't tried it against AI5.  I may have to try it as an AI5 killer.  In my testing I also had a good win rate versus t50 with it.  with the purify buff it may not be as effective, but not everyone will pack purify.

Yes it is slow.  Poison by nature is slow, however it can circumvent shields and creature control.  I thought about more shields, but I like the current balance at 30 cards.  If you really want, I can develop a larger version, but its damage will not be as efficient (well with a larger version there is always TU).

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Re: Gracious Arsenics Flying Out of Phase https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8948.msg116479#msg116479
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2010, 12:21:49 am »
Seems like there are too many  :aether Towers. You always have excess aether by the time you finish. Maybe remove 1 but what to replace it with?

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Re: Gracious Arsenics Flying Out of Phase https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8948.msg116565#msg116565
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2010, 02:36:12 am »
Seems like there are too many  :aether Towers. You always have excess aether by the time you finish. Maybe remove 1 but what to replace it with?
maybe replace a tower with TU

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Re: Gracious Arsenics Flying Out of Phase https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8948.msg147544#msg147544
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2010, 10:02:30 pm »
I put this out as a joke biting farm last night.  But after PvPing with it, I remember how much I like it.  I like the flying arsenic much better than deathstalkers as I don't need an extra element to buff them.  It puts down damage in a hurry and is untouchable with the shield up.

I bet this would be much more efficient with pendalums.

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Re: Gracious Arsenics Flying Out of Phase https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8948.msg147560#msg147560
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2010, 10:29:00 pm »
Yes, definately. A few Aether Towers - > Aether Pendulums would be amazing.

 

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