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Faceless One | Faceless Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6273.msg64957#msg64957
« on: May 07, 2010, 04:29:34 pm »
NAME:
Faceless One
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
9 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4|8
ABILITY:
:darkness :darkness :death :death : Gaze of Death
Target creature is randomly transformed into a Minor Vampire or a Skeleton
ART BY:
www.sxc.hu (royalty-free image)
IDEA BY:
Scaredgirl
NAME:
Faceless Demon
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
8 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5|8
ABILITY:
:darkness :darkness :death :death : Gaze of Death
Target creature is randomly transformed into a Minor Vampire or a Skeleton
ART BY:
www.sxc.hu (royalty-free image)
IDEA BY:
Scaredgirl
NOTES: [/color][/b]
I wanted to do a card with an "instant-kill" ability. Darkness/Death was a natural choice.

Ability costs both Darkness and Death. I'm not sure if that has been done before but I think it would be an interesting addition.
SERIES: [/color][/b]
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Re: Faceless One | Faceless Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6273.msg64961#msg64961
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2010, 04:35:30 pm »
Whoa. Now that ability is mega powered.
Suggestions
- Make the creature turn into a skeleton only.
- Instead of automatic death, make it a chance to kill. 100% for attack 2 or less. Stronger creatures, reduced chance to kill stronger attack creatures.

Zanzarino and Chriskang have both said that dual cost activators would require a rewrite of the database and most of the code so are not likely to happen.

Nice Art Selection

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Re: Faceless One | Faceless Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6273.msg64962#msg64962
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2010, 04:36:45 pm »
Does the license permit you to modify the image?  The demon would look nice with a faint red glow in its eyes... I like the dual element cost for the ability...

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Re: Faceless One | Faceless Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6273.msg64963#msg64963
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2010, 04:40:32 pm »
Oooh, I would absolutely love to make art for this card. 

I like the card, it's a pretty nice ability.  It's too bad dual quanta costs are apparently so difficult to implement, because I think the idea is pretty cool.

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Re: Faceless One | Faceless Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6273.msg64965#msg64965
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2010, 04:44:25 pm »
do you get the new creature or does your opponent get it?

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Re: Faceless One | Faceless Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6273.msg64971#msg64971
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2010, 04:54:02 pm »
do you get the new creature or does your opponent get it?
Depends on who owns it originally.  It's the "target creature" so if you target your own creature it's yours and if you target your opponents creature it's theirs.

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Re: Faceless One | Faceless Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6273.msg64978#msg64978
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2010, 05:02:43 pm »
Whoa. Now that ability is mega powered.

Zanzarino and Chriskang have both said that dual cost activators would require a rewrite of the database and most of the code so are not likely to happen.

Nice Art Selection
Hm.. well, that's unfortunate. If I understood correctly, Zanz did make some major changes to the core of the code with the last patch, that might enable dual cost thing, but most likely it's not possible.

I don't see the ability as "mega powered". Fallen Elf has a similar ability (Mutation) which costs 1 :life. Also Fallen elf costs only 4 :entropy to play.


Does the license permit you to modify the image?  The demon would look nice with a faint red glow in its eyes... I like the dual element cost for the ability...
Yes, we can modify those images as much as we want.

To me that image is more scary without the "laser eyes". :)

Oooh, I would absolutely love to make art for this card. 

I like the card, it's a pretty nice ability.  It's too bad dual quanta costs are apparently so difficult to implement, because I think the idea is pretty cool.
I might have to fix the card so that it uses only Death. That's actually how it was at first. The dual thing was a last minute addition.

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Re: Faceless One | Faceless Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6273.msg64981#msg64981
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2010, 05:10:01 pm »
I don't see the ability as "mega powered". Fallen Elf has a similar ability (Mutation) which costs 1 :life. Also Fallen elf costs only 4 :entropy to play.
- Elf only has 2hp so is easy to deal with
- Only has 10% chance to Kill
- Abomination has 5 attack which can clear shields whereas skeleton only has 1 and vamp has 2 which can be handled by most shields making them insignificant.
- Mutation can cause you to end up fighting a 10+ atk creature with Immaterial or Devour or Steal or Something else incredibly nasty.

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Re: Faceless One | Faceless Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6273.msg64989#msg64989
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2010, 05:33:29 pm »
I don't see the ability as "mega powered". Fallen Elf has a similar ability (Mutation) which costs 1 :life. Also Fallen elf costs only 4 :entropy to play.
- Elf only has 2hp so is easy to deal with
- Only has 10% chance to Kill
- Abomination has 5 attack which can clear shields whereas skeleton only has 1 and vamp has 2 which can be handled by most shields making them insignificant.
- Mutation can cause you to end up fighting a 10+ atk creature with Immaterial or Devour or Steal or Something else incredibly nasty.
Well, I think the major difference here is that Mutation can be used effectively in both attack and defense. Also you can use it multiple times until you get what you want.

When comparing these abilities, keep in mind that Gaze of Death costs :darkness :darkness :death :death, and Mutation  :life. Also creature costing 9 :darkness or 4 :entropy is a big difference. That's why Faceless One has more HP.

There are many things that make Faceless One not that powerful:
- You need both Darkness and Death quanta
- Faceless One is expensive to play
- Ability is expensive to use
- Ability doesn't kill the creatures, and there's a 50% chance of getting a Minor Vampire which is not that bad really

I don't see how anyone could see this card as "mega powered". Any speed deck with low cost creatures would absolutely destroy a deck that used Faceless Ones.

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Re: Faceless One | Faceless Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6273.msg65048#msg65048
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2010, 08:00:29 pm »
pretty cool i like the ability and *mostly* the art :D

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Re: Faceless One | Faceless Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6273.msg65083#msg65083
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 09:20:14 pm »
Is it just me or does the card art look an awful lot like KH's avatar?  Hmmm....
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Re: Faceless One | Faceless Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6273.msg65087#msg65087
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2010, 09:33:31 pm »
 :o OH God Thats scary, if it was standing right behind me *slowly turns to look* nothing, Phew!  :D
No the mutli-quantum activating thing has never been done before but it would dramatically change things in elements.
Awesome Idea though  :)

 

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