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Quasar Cannon | Quasar Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40314.msg499882#msg499882
« on: May 17, 2012, 08:04:37 am »
NAME:
Quasar Cannon
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 5
TEXT:
6 : Expulsion
Add a Nova to your hand. This counts as a cast of Nova
NAME:
Quasar Cannon
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 5
TEXT:
6 : Expulsion
Add a Supernova to your hand. This counts as a cast of Superova

ART:
Kornmesser http://www.eso.org/public/images/eso1122a/
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NOTES:
Spoiler for Hidden:
Similarities to (although several different mechanics): http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,39022.msg485289.html#msg485289

The cost of 6 random quanta offsets the quanta gain, as well as the limitation to the use of the spell Nova and Supernova.

Unupped generates 6 random quanta per turn. Upped generates 9 quanta per turn.

Super nova has to be used the turn after quasar cannon is used as supernova's singularity effect will have been used that turn. Nova can be used once the same turn quasar cannon is used before a singularity is used.

Possible Singularity Rulings:

A) either there can not be more than 2 quasar cannons on the field (3rd and more will break when they are attempted to be used)
b) When more than 2 novas or 1 supernova is used, all cannons turn into singularities
c) Cannons can not exist when a singularity is on the field
d) Cannons that go over the 2 nova or 1 super nova limit will nova but turn into a singularity each

Susceptible to cc, lobo, can be delayed or frozen.

Stats can be changed (both in game or in design)

Randomness of quanta usage to active the card provides for the negative effect of reducing the quanta you need.

Entropy cost is high making it more suited to entropy based rainbow decks (a means of generating quanta after you use the majority of your in deck SN perhaps?)

Can be changed to become a perm. (possibly to avoid overpowered synergy with Shard of readiness, and can be made so that the singularities are formed at the cost of the perm on the field). Below is a version for the purpose of permanency. The effect of the perm version can be applied to the creature, with passive nova creation and the zero cost skill to self destruct.
Spoiler for Hidden:
NAME:
Quasar Cannon
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Casts Nova at the start of every turn.  Absorbs 6 quanta per turn. Click to remove
NAME:
Quasar Cannon
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Casts Supernova at the start of every turn.   Absorbs 6 quanta per turn. Click to remove

SERIES:

« Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 11:37:59 pm by Xi Deluge »

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Re: Quasar Cannon | Quasar Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40314.msg499888#msg499888
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2012, 08:16:29 am »
1. Google Search is not a valid source, as the image might be copyrighted.
2. For casting cost using any quanta, just write 6: Expulsion
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Re: Quasar Cannon | Quasar Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40314.msg499889#msg499889
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2012, 08:17:27 am »
making changes right away.

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Re: Quasar Cannon | Quasar Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40314.msg499890#msg499890
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2012, 08:20:39 am »
I like the continuous effect on the permanent better.

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Re: Quasar Cannon | Quasar Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40314.msg499892#msg499892
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2012, 08:28:15 am »
Thanks for taking the time to read it and giving an opinion. I thought it was a bit of a stroke of genius until i searched the forums before I posted it and found the link to the other card. I will go to sleep for now, and I will check back up in the morning.

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Re: Quasar Cannon | Quasar Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40314.msg499925#msg499925
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2012, 10:23:00 am »
I can not tell if image is copyrighted or not. Can you find out for us?
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Re: Quasar Cannon | Quasar Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40314.msg499968#msg499968
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2012, 02:27:12 pm »
I'm not sure this is so good an idea. For one thing, once you started chaining them, it would be the equivalent of a pillar producing 1/2 of every quanta every turn. While in theory it sounds good, in reality, you may have just ruined the quantum pillar (6 quanta per two turns versus 12).

Plus, it would lead to the singularity OTK becoming big, and we're trying not to make that a usable card.

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Re: Quasar Cannon | Quasar Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40314.msg500163#msg500163
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2012, 10:34:19 pm »
The image seems to be copy righted, and the person who used it whited out the information, I guess another pic can be used later.
I'm not sure this is so good an idea. For one thing, once you started chaining them, it would be the equivalent of a pillar producing 1/2 of every quanta every turn. While in theory it sounds good, in reality, you may have just ruined the quantum pillar (6 quanta per two turns versus 12).

Plus, it would lead to the singularity OTK becoming big, and we're trying not to make that a usable card.

Please read everything before you give an opinion, as all of this is already accounted for in the information section.

Edit: New art and copyright info given,
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Re: Quasar Cannon | Quasar Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40314.msg500181#msg500181
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2012, 10:59:51 pm »
*counts

Also, get rid of the extra Notes and Series that separate the two charts.

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Re: Quasar Cannon | Quasar Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40314.msg500184#msg500184
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2012, 11:05:51 pm »
Got rid of the extra series things, and sorry for the spelling mistake, must have happened when changing the picture. What are some of your thoughts and ideas?

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Re: Quasar Cannon | Quasar Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40314.msg500186#msg500186
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2012, 11:08:13 pm »
Now you're missing the Series row in the bottom table.

Is there a reason to make it cost so much?  I'd consider dropping the summoning cost to 4~5 :entropy .

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Re: Quasar Cannon | Quasar Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40314.msg500194#msg500194
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2012, 11:18:04 pm »
Dropping the cost is fine, I was thinking about how it was counter productive to a quanta producing source.

 

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