Quanta Cloud | Quanta Crystal

[waterzx]

NAME: Quanta Cloud ELEMENT: Other COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 1 | 3 TEXT: Absorb all quanta. Gain 1 | 1 for every 4 quanta absorbed to maximum of  12 | 14 0:Die, return absorbed quanta	NAME: Quanta Crystal ELEMENT: Other COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 1 | 3 TEXT: Absorb all quanta. Gain 2 | 2 for every 5 quanta absorbed to maximum of  19 | 21 0:Die, return absorbed quanta

ART: Heavily modified from image by Smithsonian Institution : http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SN_1996cr_in_Circinus.jpg IDEA: waterzx NOTES: Why is this card useful ? 1. Bypass effect of black hole, discord and devourer, by storing quanta safely in a massive creature 2. Deliver a final blow to end the game 3. Reduce wastage of quanta 4. As a emergency quanta source Why is this card a risky card ? It is a creature. It may get killed , lobotomized, or affected by any status effect What do you mean "die, return absorbed quanta" ? It means you sacrifice the creature, and return all the absorbed quanta to you. That means it is a temporary creature which cost 3 quanta to use but has immense potential to be a threat to opponent. SERIES:

NAME: Quanta Cloud ELEMENT: Other COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 1 | 1 TEXT: Absorb all quanta. Gain 1 | 1 for every 5 quanta absorbed to maximum of 10|10 0:Die,return absorbed quanta	NAME: Quanta Orb ELEMENT: Other COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2 | 2 TEXT: Absorb all quanta. Gain 1 | 1 for every 5 quanta absorbed to maximum of 15|15 0:Die,return absorbed quanta

ART: Heavily modified from image by Smithsonian Institution : http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SN_1996cr_in_Circinus.jpg IDEA: Waterzx NOTES: Why is this card useful ? 1. Bypass effect of black hole, discord and devourer, by storing quanta safely in a massive creature 2. Deliver a final blow to end the game 3. Reduce wastage of quanta 4. As a emergency quanta source Why is this card a risky card ? It is a creature. It may get killed , lobotomized, or affected by any status effect What do you mean "die, return absorbed quanta" ? It means you sacrifice the creature, and return all the absorbed quanta to you. That means it is a temporary creature which cost 3 quanta to use but has immense potential to be a threat to opponent. SERIES:

[Drake_XIV]

How many times will you reuse that art?

And that's an interesting effect.  The problem I see is determining which quanta will be reimbursed.  You can't really tell what was consumed and what was absorbed.

And it'd be easy to build it up with Quantum Pillars...

[waterzx]

How many times will you reuse that art?

And that's an interesting effect.  The problem I see is determining which quanta will be reimbursed.  You can't really tell what was consumed and what was absorbed.

And it'd be easy to build it up with Quantum Pillars...

You can't tell what was absorbed because all quanta will be absorbed, every single one. But the stats only go up to 10|10 for unupped and 15|15 for upped.

I know it's easy to set up with quantum pillars, but every time you play it, you lose all quanta. If you use other cards before you play quanta cloud, you may lose some of its power too.

Maybe a higher actual cost for this card ?

As for the art...I find it suitable for a lot of card ideas I have in mind. So....

[Absol]

RT against this = GG.
Other than that, looks balanced.

[waterzx]

RT against this = GG.
Other than that, looks balanced.

That's why you need to think twice before you use it

[jawdirk]

I think it is vastly UP. Assuming rounding up, it is 6 quanta for a 2/2 creature. It is 53 quanta for a 10/10 creature, or 78 quanta for a 15/15 creature. It doesn't really help at all against devourers or discord, since it drops you to 0 quanta, which is exactly the worst situation to be in.

If you never use the ability, you have an extremely inefficient creature. If you do use it, you lost a card.

Parallel Universe is powerful with it, if you can get it to survive. Even if you are storing 16 quanta, it is only 4/4 which could easily be shockwaved.

It should maybe be +2/+2 per 5 mana with 16 and 24 for the maximums. Perhaps it should have a base of 0/3 to keep it from being killed by all PC. My hunch is that even with PU, it would not be overpowered. You are spending 9 mana and 2 cards to double your quanta. You need 24+9=33 mana to make it as efficient as nova. Imagine how bad nova would be if it you had to have 33 mana to cast it.

[waterzx]

You are right about it being quite UP

But this is a bit intentional because this is not supposed to be a main-hitter for a deck. It is supposed to be a additional attack source when you have excess quanta.

sometimes you may find that you have too many pillars and you simply waste those quanta. And this card can help you speed up the game a little bit, and you can get the quanta back as soon as your Fractal / Miracle / Anything you need comes to your hand.

Also don't forget Fractal....If you store your  in a quanta cloud, you can bypass the requirement of Fractal draining your 

But a base HP is a good idea, and perhaps I should change it to : "Gain 1|1 for every 4 quanta absorbed"

[jawdirk]

You are right about it being quite UP

But this is a bit intentional because this is not supposed to be a main-hitter for a deck. It is supposed to be a additional attack source when you have excess quanta.

But what if you draw it instead of a main-hitter? Then your deck isn't hitting at all.

Also don't forget Fractal....If you store your  in a quanta cloud, you can bypass the requirement of Fractal draining your 

That is a pretty weak effect for a whole card. First you have to store your quanta, then you have to wait for 9 quanta. Most times I would rather get the benefit of fractal immediately, and then wait to build my quanta up again.

[Rutarete]

Multiple these can get multiple Sky Blitzes in one turn
Anyway, cool idea waterzx

[waterzx]

You are right about it being quite UP

But this is a bit intentional because this is not supposed to be a main-hitter for a deck. It is supposed to be a additional attack source when you have excess quanta.

But what if you draw it instead of a main-hitter? Then your deck isn't hitting at all.

Also don't forget Fractal....If you store your  in a quanta cloud, you can bypass the requirement of Fractal draining your 

That is a pretty weak effect for a whole card. First you have to store your quanta, then you have to wait for 9 quanta. Most times I would rather get the benefit of fractal immediately, and then wait to build my quanta up again.

New versions are made. Both cards have received a huge boost

[OdinVanguard]

I never only just noticed this card's newest incarnation.

I think the stat caps on both are a bit high. The unupgraded version isn't too bad, but the upgraded version gets to be huge... It may require a lot of quanta to do so, but getting that much isn't too hard with quantum pillars and supernovas.

The interesting question is, what happens if you hit it with PU?

It may take 1 turn to wait for the quanta to build up after casting, but xeroxing these things would get very ugly!

Also, is this card a flying creature? (Important for sky-dive and SoFr)

[blarp]

I like this effect, but yes I also think the stat cap is too high. Could make some really nice combos though, just limiting the stats further makes it easier to evaluate opness.