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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463706#msg463706
« Reply #144 on: February 23, 2012, 10:29:25 am »
Decided to challenge myself, and make a Gravity-based Mutation deck.  I tried to make on for Trials, but it didn't work out, due to the constraints.

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Basically you Improve some of the Firemasters, and leave one or two to generate attack with Ablaze.  Modified with Mitosis for extra Firemasters for Improvement and Fire Pendulum to support the buffing of Firemasters alongside possible Fire mutations.

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463730#msg463730
« Reply #145 on: February 23, 2012, 02:48:45 pm »
Decided to challenge myself, and make a Gravity-based Mutation deck.  I tried to make on for Trials, but it didn't work out, due to the constraints.

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Basically you Improve some of the Firemasters, and leave one or two to generate attack with Ablaze.  Worked on it a little, so it might need work.
putting a mitosis or 2 for extra mutation fodder could work

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463822#msg463822
« Reply #146 on: February 23, 2012, 09:43:47 pm »
It uses rewind...but yeah.
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This one uses boneyards. Does that count?
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dammit, i had a very similar idea.. ^^
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463824#msg463824
« Reply #147 on: February 23, 2012, 09:49:52 pm »
Decided to challenge myself, and make a Gravity-based Mutation deck.  I tried to make on for Trials, but it didn't work out, due to the constraints.

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Basically you Improve some of the Firemasters, and leave one or two to generate attack with Ablaze.  Modified with Mitosis for extra Firemasters for Improvement and Fire Pendulum to support the buffing of Firemasters alongside possible Fire mutations.
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463835#msg463835
« Reply #148 on: February 23, 2012, 10:52:34 pm »
I like the idea. Gravity force as CC is another nice addition. :)

Also, this is probably the nuttiest idea I've posted on this thread, but:

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Super-quick perm destruction for lockdown, then you can attack with the remaining Dejas + CP. Rewind is for the few creatures that do manage to get out.

Late game the deck tends to have way too much quanta, wondering whether to add dragons/GotP.
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463840#msg463840
« Reply #149 on: February 23, 2012, 11:05:52 pm »
hi all, i dont post nothing here for a while but i had my reasons

anyway i am currently trying on a deck i made for False Gods based on Animated Quinted Overdrived Titans

i think it works very well, despite the fact it needs a 4 card combo, it will not clog up your hand like an 8 card combo OTK
basicaly when you manage to play it, its a matter of time until the God is dead at the feet of your Titan

so here it is:

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strategy: draw as much as you can in the beginning until you can get 1 titan out, then you just need to draw to maintain your shield chain because 1 Titan in field quinted and overdrived is enough to kill the god

stall with shards and phase shields to give yourself time to setup

i might make some stats for this deck if people get interested in it

so what do you think :D?

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463855#msg463855
« Reply #150 on: February 23, 2012, 11:32:07 pm »
I like the idea. Gravity force as CC is another nice addition. :)

Also, this is probably the nuttiest idea I've posted on this thread, but:

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Super-quick perm destruction for lockdown, then you can attack with the remaining Dejas + CP. Rewind is for the few creatures that do manage to get out.

Late game the deck tends to have way too much quanta, wondering whether to add dragons/GotP.
MAybe adding a Discord or two is an option, often nice when you can spare to change a few cards.

hi all, i dont post nothing here for a while but i had my reasons

anyway i am currently trying on a deck i made for False Gods based on Animated Quinted Overdrived Titans

i think it works very well, despite the fact it needs a 4 card combo, it will not clog up your hand like an 8 card combo OTK
basicaly when you manage to play it, its a matter of time until the God is dead at the feet of your Titan

so here it is:

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strategy: draw as much as you can in the beginning until you can get 1 titan out, then you just need to draw to maintain your shield chain because 1 Titan in field quinted and overdrived is enough to kill the god

stall with shards and phase shields to give yourself time to setup

i might make some stats for this deck if people get interested in it

so what do you think :D?
Considering this suffices as a Trio by quanta usage, and Quartet by total elements used, you don't really need any Quantum Towers, maybe more of each Pendulum though.
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg463983#msg463983
« Reply #151 on: February 24, 2012, 09:25:36 am »
Considering this suffices as a Trio by quanta usage, and Quartet by total elements used, you don't really need any Quantum Towers, maybe more of each Pendulum though.
the QTs are to pay the shards without speding potentially useful quanta, increase the size of the deck as it would tend to deckout if not for that and to give me a chance of beating quanta-denying gods like decay or even seism

i can exchange some QTs to pendulums but the deck seemed to work just fine in my initial testing

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg464002#msg464002
« Reply #152 on: February 24, 2012, 01:31:26 pm »
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I think it has more disadvantages than Limitless Speed and don't have any advantages: it depends on the shields and would loose against Akebono and anything that destroys it. It would also loose against the Feral Bond FGs if one of the titans doesn't come early quite late, remember that you have 18 stalling turns and a titan reach 38 damage in 10 turns.
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg464015#msg464015
« Reply #153 on: February 24, 2012, 02:34:37 pm »
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I think it has more disadvantages than Limitless Speed and don't have any advantages: it depends on the shields and would loose against Akebono and anything that destroys it. It would also loose against the Feral Bond FGs if one of the titans doesn't come early quite late, remember that you have 18 stalling turns and a titan reach 38 damage in 10 turns.
i would never use this over limitless speed, wich by the way, is the deck i use for farming gods :P
about the stalling part, its true what you said about ferox as it was one of the first things it occurred to me about the deck

the deck needs improvement i didnt exactly work on this for more than 10 minutes and the first version even had a pulverizer to deal with ferox among other things

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg464019#msg464019
« Reply #154 on: February 24, 2012, 03:13:49 pm »
As for a deck combo, is there a really effective Dim Shield + PA way to make a deck?
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg464031#msg464031
« Reply #155 on: February 24, 2012, 03:50:23 pm »
As for a deck combo, is there a really effective Dim Shield + PA waiy to make a deck?
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