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The Fate Egg bow [Unupped][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35951.msg452164#msg452164
« on: January 24, 2012, 03:28:32 am »
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A fairly simple rainbow rush using a wide variety of creatures. The Fate Eggs work surprisingly well - the combined damage of the other creatures is often enough to pull through despite the occasional bad Hatch. Mutation can be used to improve bad hatches, and occasionally a nymph or dragon will come into play early.

Mass CC, Earthquake and Black Hole can create problems, as can an early Otyugh. However, if your opponent's free of them you should have a fun and potentially very interesting match.
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Re: The Fate Egg bow [Unupped][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35951.msg452167#msg452167
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 03:55:35 am »
Given how very, very useful Mutation is in this deck, I'm surprised you're not using Fallen Elf instead of the Mutation spell. Druidic Staff doesn't seem like it would be very useful in a deck like this, so you don't need to worry about straining :life.

May I suggest -2 Mummy, +2 Flesh Spider, and throw in a Wings or two somewhere in there? You have no shield, and wings+spiders can completely shut down some decks. Of course, with the large :air usage, you won't be able to afford using Toadfish's effect... Alternatively, if you don't like Wings, Arsenic would still be a better card than Mummy or Druidic Staff.

-Hematite Golem +Graboid. Even with the use of strained :time, Graboid should still be considered. It's just too good not to be.

Gravity Pull + Toadfish + Mutation really isn't enough CC, especially as you WILL use Mutation on your own creatures. If you don't go with Wings/Spiders, you can replace Phase Spiders with Lightnings. Those things can take down almost anything. Another good substitution would bee Quintessence; you don't want to lose that Steal mutant, that 17/2 Crimson Dragon with Dive, or that Fallen Elf (if you have one).

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Re: The Fate Egg bow [Unupped][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35951.msg452458#msg452458
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 11:50:07 pm »
I'd indeed swap the druidic staff for another weapon, what about swapping druidic staff + 2 deflags for 2 puvlies + fallen elf?

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Re: The Fate Egg bow [Unupped][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35951.msg452480#msg452480
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2012, 12:41:56 am »
Besides the changes mentioned already I would swap a mummy for a fog shield for: defense, more use of :air and less strain on :death.
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Re: The Fate Egg bow [Unupped][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35951.msg452601#msg452601
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2012, 11:28:51 am »
Besides the changes mentioned already I would swap a mummy for a fog shield for: defense, more use of :air and less strain on :death.
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Re: The Fate Egg bow [Unupped][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35951.msg452615#msg452615
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2012, 12:58:24 pm »
Y u no novas?
-6 pillars, +6 novas
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- Druidic staff, +1 Forest spirit
-2 mummies, +2 Arsenics
- steal, + lycan
- Gpull, + momentum
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Re: The Fate Egg bow [Unupped][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35951.msg452618#msg452618
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 01:13:36 pm »
Y u no novas?
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Re: The Fate Egg bow [Unupped][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35951.msg452620#msg452620
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 01:16:09 pm »
Y u no novas?
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Re: The Fate Egg bow [Unupped][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35951.msg452621#msg452621
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 01:22:29 pm »
Y u no novas?
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- steal, + lycan
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Re: The Fate Egg bow [Unupped][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35951.msg452919#msg452919
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2012, 07:50:23 am »
Y u no novas?
-6 pillars, +6 novas
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- Druidic staff, +1 Forest spirit
-2 mummies, +2 Arsenics
- steal, + lycan
- Gpull, + momentum
- Pegasus, + fog shield

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The voices in my head REALLY don't like you replacing Steal for Lycan. It's easily killed during one turn and Steal's a much more flexible card. Of course, since you're relying on Novas you might not get 4 :darkness, but similarly you need 4 :entropy to get Mutation and Lycan.

Also, if you switch to Novas, there's no way the deck can support six Fate Eggs.

You can take out the Toadfish if you're using Forest Spirit. You'll never get enough :water for both if you use Novas.

Momentum doesn't seem very useful in rainbows; you'd be better off using Explosion (though in this specific deck that'll strain :fire) or keeping the Steal you took away earlier if you're worried about shields. Gravity Pull, in contrast, is extremely useful.

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Re: The Fate Egg bow [Unupped][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35951.msg454288#msg454288
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2012, 07:37:05 am »
As a fun deck, fallen elf and mitosis is needed... Egg spam is fun :)
I agree that QTs are better than novas in this non-rush rainbow, though.
Needs more consistent CC (GP is ok, mutation is meh, toadfish is slow).
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Re: The Fate Egg bow [Unupped][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35951.msg454750#msg454750
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2012, 12:04:43 pm »
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I don't know if this deck really NEEDS 6 Novas to work perfectly. I mean, if you think about it, 1 or 2 might be okay for busting out some of the other creatures, but placing in 6 of them for Quantum Pillars is just bad because they have a higher chance of messing up the mulligan against RT users (Rainbows that rely mostly on Supernova for example to get their creatures out suffer from quanta withdrawal once they play and pay against Rewind). The above deck adds two extra time cards (one time pillar and one time pendulum) just to throw off potential earthquake users, as well as (hopefully) getting out those Fate Eggs faster.

I also took out Gravity Pull and put in Otyugh (just for light CC), assuming you want a little bit of control in there. I also agreed with 714's notion that a mummy for a fog shield swap was a good idea; Fallen Elf over Mutation seemed more reliable (and allows you to use more :life quanta when you can), and I dropped a Phase Spider for an extra Nova. 12 quanta sources might be overkill in a 'Rushy' rainbow deck, but with all the types of creatures you need to be pumping out, I'd rather be on the safer side of actually deploying the offense than having them all in my hand waiting for that one bit of quantum.

 

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