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Re: Elemental Themes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35493.msg450120#msg450120
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 06:04:38 am »
anywho, fun thread.
I am not 100% sure what you where really looking for, so I kinda tossed several thoughts into my ramblings.  I hope you find something you can use.
I look forward to people's responses, I may contribute more if I feel so compelled later.
Remember the idea is that each of these themes would fit as a theme in either mono element.
This isn't themes described by  :death + :life
but rather by
 :death -> theme X
 :life -> theme X
 :death/ :life theme X

Also these themes do not need to be on the scale of decks. Then can be on scales smaller than cards.

 :entropy/ :darkness Fear
Pandamonium is mono :entropy Fear
Nightmare is mono :darkness Fear
Therefore Fear is part of both elements
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Re: Elemental Themes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35493.msg450144#msg450144
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2012, 08:29:15 am »
Remember the idea is that each of these themes would fit as a theme in either mono element.
This isn't themes described by  :death + :life
but rather by
 :death -> theme X
 :life -> theme X
 :death/ :life theme X

Also these themes do not need to be on the scale of decks. Then can be on scales smaller than cards.

 :entropy/ :darkness Fear
Pandamonium is mono :entropy Fear
Nightmare is mono :darkness Fear
Therefore Fear is part of both elements
less interesting, but doable

 :life/ :light = healing
 :life/ :death = poison
 :light/ :time = sun

like that?

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Re: Elemental Themes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35493.msg450188#msg450188
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2012, 02:25:23 pm »
less interesting, but doable

 :life/ :light = healing
 :life/ :death = poison
 :light/ :time = sun

like that?
Yes.

Why does Sun fit Time?
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Re: Elemental Themes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35493.msg450191#msg450191
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2012, 02:28:22 pm »
My first thought after catching up with this thread is, Wow this is more interesting than I thought it would be.

Would  :gravity/ :life = Growing Mass?
A common thing i see between  :light/ :time is Divine Golden things.
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Re: Elemental Themes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35493.msg450319#msg450319
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2012, 09:43:03 pm »
 :aether :gravity Long living (immortal or high HP)
 :gravity :earth Protection (g. pull, armagio, shields, protect artifact)
 :darkness :water Adaptation? (water duos, darkness making use of enemy cards)
 :gravity :darkness absorbtion[theft?] (black hole, steal)
 :darkness :time Manipulation (of the hand for time, of the field for dark)
 :fire :death Destruction (nearly all cards)
 :darkness :death Evil? (more thematically)
 :life :time Speed? (more metagameish)
 :gravity :water Technology (catapult, steam machine)

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Re: Elemental Themes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35493.msg450386#msg450386
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2012, 01:16:05 am »
Yes.

Why does Sun fit Time?
The Desert theme to it...and SUNdial...in a round about way, day/night...

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Re: Elemental Themes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35493.msg450391#msg450391
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2012, 01:24:19 am »
Yes.

Why does Sun fit Time?
The Desert theme to it...and SUNdial...in a round about way, day/night...
Deserts are created by the gradual removal of vegetation and decay of the land. ( :time , maybe :death if you look at the decay aspect a different way)
A Sundial is a timetelling device similar to a clock, that tells  :time based on the position of  :light (sunlight, to be exact).
The actual sun is a very hot star commonly associated with :fire and :light in common mythology. Stars themselves seem to be implied to fit best in  :aether:fire:gravity:entropy , :light , and maybe  :air or :darkness if you want to stretch the concept.

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Re: Elemental Themes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35493.msg451279#msg451279
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2012, 11:08:35 pm »
A common theme for  :gravity :time is speed/tempo.
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Re: Elemental Themes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35493.msg451464#msg451464
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2012, 01:01:05 pm »
 :water / :time is patience, is costancy (a drop of water which erode the rock), is a flow
 :water / :life is Mother Earth, the greatest mass generator of life.
 :water / :light is spirituality, sacrality, redemption.

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Re: Elemental Themes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35493.msg451466#msg451466
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2012, 01:07:43 pm »
:water / :time is patience, is costancy (a drop of water which erode the rock), is a flow
 :water / :life is Mother Earth, the greatest mass generator of life.
 :water / :light is spirituality, sacrality, redemption.
Your patience example is good. Time procrastinates (Shield). Water is patient (Shard). Therefore both elements have the theme of Patience.

I am not sure if your Mother Earth example fits. That sounds more like it requires both elements to justify the theme rather than the theme existing separately in each element. (It sounds even more like it is a Mono Life theme but not a Mono Water theme.)

The same holds for your  :water:light example.

This thread is about  :water or  :light not  :water:light. The thematic intersections rather than unions if you will.
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Re: Elemental Themes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35493.msg451467#msg451467
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2012, 01:09:19 pm »
 :water:darkness is superstition, legends about curses of the ocean and creatures. Is the deepness of the ocean

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Re: Elemental Themes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35493.msg451468#msg451468
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2012, 01:14:56 pm »
I am not sure if your Mother Earth example fits. That sounds more like it requires both elements to justify the theme rather than the theme existing separately in each element. (It sounds even more like it is a Mono Life theme but not a Mono Water theme.)
 :water:life generate a great quantity of creatures at same time. Life on Earth started inside the water, and it's evolution too.

The same holds for your  :water:light example.

This thread is about  :water or  :light not  :water:light. The thematic intersections rather than unions if you will.
Holy water? Baptism? Is theme of purification by water

 

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