The Morality of Rare Farms in Top50

[plastiqe]

Rare farms exist in the top 50 when a player puts up a deck of all rare cards and pillars.  This makes it very easy to win specific rares, to the point where they aren't really rare anymore.  I used to think they were great, but lately I'm not so sure.  After I read a post by our wonderful creator Zanzarino, I'm curious as to what everybody else thinks.

Do you think Top 50 rare farms should be in Elements?

[Tea is good]

Hmmm, if the rares out right now, aren't as rare and Zanz makes  "Legendary" cards. Then who cares if the cards are rare. I think it would make more sense if there were more than one weapon for each element. That way the "Rare" cards would be rare, and noobs would at least start out with some permanents.

[Astaroth]

Well, look at it this way. You can spend a ton of electrum trying to find that one farm in the T50. Plus, it counts as losses when you return to the main menu. I think it does open up more possibilities for newer members, especially when they chose the wrong weapon in that one quest. This game is already grind-city, so I think a few people putting up a rare farm isn't too bad...

[Evil Combat]

i like to rare farm and wasted alot of cois there where alot of my rare is found from rare farms if it is removed,rares would be very hard to come by

[Wisemage]

First, rare farms do not make rare cards common, you have to waste tons of money (if you only want rare farms) leaving all non farms, so you are paying for it, and even if you get a rare farm you arent guaranteed the card.

[Evil Combat]

First, rare farms do not make rare cards common, you have to waste tons of money (if you only want rare farms) leaving all non farms, so you are paying for it, and even if you get a rare farm you arent guaranteed the card.

agree i wasted 10k in t50 to only get 1 squid and 3 trident huge price

[CB!]

Rare farms have existed for a loooooong time, and Zanz has know about the rare farm exploit for a loooooong time.  The only way to make a card rare with the current slot system is to make it not show up in T50 slots.

This argument came up regarding Shard of Gratitude farms.  Originally SoGs went to people that donated money, and the whole 'morality' of putting them in farms was sparked some arguments.  The people that donated money didn't want to see people that didn't donate money winning SoGs.

As far as the 'morality' of rare farms, I contend that Zanz has complete control over the rarity of the cards.  Sure, the T50 doesn't work as it was intended, but Zanz could easily fix that by not allowing T50 slots.

Personally, I'd like to see the slots system go away and have a system with booster packs that you could purchase with electrum - and maintain a card's rarity that way.

Just my thoughts, anyway.

[assassim]

oooh i <3 booster packs! It makes it that much more special when you actually get a good card from one, it can really make someone's day.

[plastiqe]

Yeah I've seen this brought up a couple times before CB, but Zanzarino's post was the first time I'd seen him comment on it.  It's nice to hear from someone who is actually in the top 50.  The SoG thing is kinda out of the bag now, since they've been available for such a long time.  The mark cards however, which are currently only available from winning tournaments, are still very rare yet are winnable in T50 slots.  It's unlikly I'll ever be in the top 50 (or win a tournament) but I'd still don't like the concept of rare farms in T50 so I voted no.

Booster Packs is a good idea, it certanly has the 'wow' factor that Zanz was talking about.  I think all the current rares (weapons, miracle, squid)  should just be buyable for 1000 electrum at the bazaar.  That way you aren't spending electrum and trashing your win/loss record just to find one.  There has to be some kind of reliable way of getting these cards because they're so powerful.

[Diabriel]

This game already is an absolute grind fest and isn't very appealing to the inexperienced players or the casual gamer.  I see the rare farms that are put up as quite beneficial, giving new players access to some of the more effective cards a bit faster than they would against the low level computer opponents.  With the ever improving AI, some of these rares are almost becoming a requirement for a newer player to defeat the false gods.

[ScytherLoL]

To put ,y two cents in I would keep the rare farms but I would make it so T50 actually lose the card when the spin comes around.

ie. I win a Trident from a T50, he/she loses that Trident.

Personally that would be my idea of how it could slow down rare farming as less T50 will want to lose their good cards.

Also I would make it that youget the card spin from only their deck they just used and if it is fully upgraded then you only have upgrades to spin from etc. In short you get exactly the card they have upgrade or not.

Just my ideas

Scyther

[PuppyChow]

To put ,y two cents in I would keep the rare farms but I would make it so T50 actually lose the card when the spin comes around.

ie. I win a Trident from a T50, he/she loses that Trident.

Personally that would be my idea of how it could slow down rare farming as less T50 will want to lose their good cards.

Also I would make it that youget the card spin from only their deck they just used and if it is fully upgraded then you only have upgrades to spin from etc. In short you get exactly the card they have upgrade or not.

Just my ideas

Scyther

Aka, screw us people in the T50 over for just playing. Are you communist? XD

If I'm farming Gods, I don't want to wake up one day just to learn every single card in my deck is gone and I have to start from scratch simply because some guys got lucky and won all my cards. Those cards that I had spent long hours getting.

And even if it's just rares, I spent a long time farming T50 to get 6 of each. What if I'm just using a deck that uses 6 of a rare and flying weapons? It wouldn't be fair to lose a rare just because I'm using it in a deck.

How would that work anyway? If I'm using a 30 card deck and someone wins a card, since I don't have that card anymore does my deck become 29 cards? >_<

Finally, it isn't just the decks we leave when we're offline. Any time we're using a deck with an upgraded card, we would run the risk of losing that card if we had submitted our highscore. So you would be punishing us for being in the T50 since we would probably never use upgraded or rare cards. Or we would never submit our score, and then it wouldn't really be the T50. Maybe it could be renamed the "Bottom 50."