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Eden | Eden https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg419882#msg419882
« on: November 03, 2011, 04:38:18 pm »
NAME:
Eden
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
All creatures gain +3/+3.
Eden is destroyed when a non-Life card is played. Immaterial.
NAME:
Eden
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
All creatures gain +3/+3.
Eden is destroyed when a non-Life card is played. Immaterial.
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Public Domain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jan_Bruegel_d._%C3%84._003.jpg
IDEA:
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NOTES:
A fun new time-limit mechanic that isn't based off of turns or quanta upkeeps.
The effect works like Nightfall in that it buffs all creatures, including enemy creatures and creatures played after Eden is played.
Works well with Silence, Dune Scorpion, possibly Nightmare, and obviously denial.
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Re: Eden | Eden https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg419912#msg419912
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011, 05:42:40 pm »
Thimbs up! Even if it could be easily destroyed during the next opponent turn. It is also unuseful immaterial, since there is no PC in Life (am i right?)

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Re: Eden | Eden https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg419921#msg419921
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2011, 06:05:03 pm »
Thimbs up! Even if it could be easily destroyed during the next opponent turn. It is also unuseful immaterial, since there is no PC in Life (am i right?)
The "immaterial" part is mostly so that it's protected against abilities like Pulverizer and Butterfly Effect.

Re: Eden | Eden https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg419971#msg419971
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2011, 07:46:04 pm »
I'd just like to intrude on this topic and say that I really like the concept. In fact, the only thing I don't like about this is the art, and I even like that a little. (the parrot in the top left corner makes it for me).

I'm not really seeing the special synergy with Dune scorp, but its definitely cool to have Nightmare (even better when you think you are giving them life cards) and Silence, cards that don't get that much use outside the very specific situations.


And just something, might just be me, but does the +3 +3 work like Nightfall (affects even creatures played afterwards) or just cards on the field when it is played.

(Oh, and multiples of this, would they stack +3, +6 then all be destroyed at once by one chaos power?)

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Re: Eden | Eden https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg419984#msg419984
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2011, 08:21:19 pm »
Neat card.

Fractal Sparks + one or two of these + Silence chain? I don't see that being too powerful but it would be cool.

I think the synergy with Dune Scorp is that you only need it to hit once for the enemy to get neurotoxin.

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Re: Eden | Eden https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg420290#msg420290
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2011, 07:46:32 am »
Neat card.

Fractal Sparks + one or two of these + Silence chain? I don't see that being too powerful but it would be cool.

I think the synergy with Dune Scorp is that you only need it to hit once for the enemy to get neurotoxin.
If by silence chain you mean a single silence, yes. But you'd have to play the silence before fractal. And even then only one because it is an Aether card.

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Re: Eden | Eden https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg420293#msg420293
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 08:07:03 am »
This is one of the coolest card ideas I've seen on this forum.  Enough said.   ;D

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Re: Eden | Eden https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg420294#msg420294
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 08:08:24 am »
The Parrot need to be in the final version if this card ever goes to the prod. :]

Well balanced. Interesting. Revigorates old unused cards. Creates combos. Awesome.
And you'll have my vote in the crucible poll because there are not many awesome life cards proposed so far imo.

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Re: Eden | Eden https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg420295#msg420295
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 08:16:16 am »
Wow, this is quite powerful, not OP probably, but powerful, +3 | +3 is powerful even if it only lasts for one turn, especially with cards like mitosis, in exchange though it does boost your opponents creatures though, i like this!
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Re: Eden | Eden https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg420299#msg420299
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2011, 08:46:14 am »
Wow, lots of positive feedback in this thread, wasn't expecting that, so thanks everyone! ^^

I'm not really seeing the special synergy with Dune scorp, but its definitely cool to have Nightmare (even better when you think you are giving them life cards) and Silence, cards that don't get that much use outside the very specific situations.
Ah, it was meant to be synergy with neurotoxin. Not only is a Dune-Eden skeleton a duo, but having neurotoxin and eden together forces the opponent to choose between just pressing space to avoid extra neurotoxin (but keeping eden in play) and playing a card to destroy eden (but increasing his neurotoxin count)

And just something, might just be me, but does the +3 +3 work like Nightfall (affects even creatures played afterwards) or just cards on the field when it is played.

(Oh, and multiples of this, would they stack +3, +6 then all be destroyed at once by one chaos power?)
It works like Nightfall, I'll add that in notes. Since it works like Nightfall, it doesn't stack, but if you play two then they can all be destroyed by one card. I could add a "cumulative" so that it stacks, but that may be overcomplicating it.

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Re: Eden | Eden https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg421422#msg421422
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2011, 01:55:33 pm »
Awesome idea. I also see combos with voodoo doll, since eden + any non-life card will do three unblockable damage per doll. Much easier this way than the nightfall + deflag combo with vodoo doll i recently thaught about after seeing the fire elder destroy my eclipse.
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Re: Eden | Eden https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg421458#msg421458
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2011, 03:21:49 pm »
Awesome idea. I also see combos with voodoo doll, since eden + any non-life card will do three unblockable damage per doll. Much easier this way than the nightfall + deflag combo with vodoo doll i recently thaught about after seeing the fire elder destroy my eclipse.
Yeah, I almost forgot about that combo. 3 is also perfect for Adrenaline and Voodoo Dolls are perfect for Liquid Shadow, again forcing the opponent to choose between keeping Eden and destroying Eden. :P

 

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