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PVP farming [exploit] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32406.msg409456#msg409456
« on: October 14, 2011, 06:32:59 am »
An exploit that basicly allows anyone who knows anyone with rare to eventually get as many copies of these rares.
Why is it problematic? Because :
-It makes rares very rapidly become non-rares, for the ones using this glitch
-It makes people using it get a (heavy) advantage over those not using it. Which is the definition of an exploit.
Possible fix : no spin in pvp / rares are transformed in relics for pvp.
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Re: PVP farming [exploit] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32406.msg409457#msg409457
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2011, 06:35:03 am »
And how should this be solved? Is there any way to solve it?

The only solution I can think of is to have way more players in PvP. But that's somewhat hard to control.
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Re: PVP farming [exploit] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32406.msg409458#msg409458
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2011, 06:38:28 am »
And how should this be solved? Is there any way to solve it?

The only solution I can think of is to have way more players in PvP. But that's somewhat hard to control.
I don't see any, non-constraining way to do it. The only viable solution i can see would be to make rares relics in pvp spins.
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Re: PVP farming [exploit] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32406.msg409459#msg409459
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2011, 06:40:44 am »
Either rares to relics in PvP spins or remove PvP spins altogether. In fact, I think removing spins and increasing the :electrum gain by a wide margin would increase the playability of the PvP options. Meh, not that much now that there's Arena, but still.
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Re: PVP farming [exploit] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32406.msg409461#msg409461
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2011, 06:55:05 am »
And how should this be solved? Is there any way to solve it?

The only solution I can think of is to have way more players in PvP. But that's somewhat hard to control.
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Re: PVP farming [exploit] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32406.msg409551#msg409551
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2011, 12:31:07 pm »
1 big problem, if we transform rares in relics we will have relic farms.
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Re: PVP farming [exploit] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32406.msg409571#msg409571
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2011, 01:31:20 pm »
What exactly is the result of the exploit ? Infinite number of spins ? Same opponent several times ? Or other ?
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Re: PVP farming [exploit] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32406.msg409578#msg409578
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2011, 01:35:42 pm »
What exactly is the result of the exploit ? Infinite number of spins ? Same opponent several times ? Or other ?
Potentially any rare card you want, and as many as you want. The exploit isn't even a bug; just an unwanted thing that can be done to exploit the current PvP system.
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Re: PVP farming [exploit] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32406.msg409582#msg409582
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2011, 01:46:40 pm »
What exactly is the result of the exploit ? Infinite number of spins ? Same opponent several times ? Or other ?
2 people go in at the same time, one using a farm. Chances of getting each other is almost 100% due to the fact there are so few people in pvp2.

Player with farm leaves, player with proper deck wins rares. Rinse and Repeat to go from potentialy nothing to a full set of rares.
Another even bigger problem is alt accounts.
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Re: PVP farming [exploit] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32406.msg409588#msg409588
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2011, 02:06:43 pm »
Not a bug or similar. Moving to GS&F.
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Re: PVP farming [exploit] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32406.msg409593#msg409593
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 02:13:13 pm »
While this isn't an exploit doing this for many people over and over and not incurring a score or win-rate penalty IS an exploit, and something I'd like fixed.

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Re: PVP farming [exploit] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32406.msg409595#msg409595
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2011, 02:16:46 pm »
While this isn't an exploit doing this for many people over and over and not incurring a score or win-rate penalty IS an exploit, and something I'd like fixed.
It does induce a score & win rate penalty.
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